Best coral nutrition product you’ve ever used? (1 Viewer)

sneezebeetle · Sep 4, 2019

Agree 100% with water changes (I use Tropic Marin) and maintaining stable parameters. I confess I have a cabinet full of bottles of "additives", but aside from dosing 2 part to maintain Ca and Alk, I only dose Red Sea Coral Nutrition.....and fish poop LOL!

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Reefahholic · Sep 4, 2019

sneezebeetle said:
Agree 100% with water changes (I use Tropic Marin) and maintaining stable parameters. I confess I have a cabinet full of bottles of "additives", but aside from dosing 2 part to maintain Ca and Alk, I only dose Red Sea Coral Nutrition.....and fish poop LOL!

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Check this comparison out. These two corals nearly died in my Triton Core7 incident. I fragged both of them (these tiny pieces) and the blue frag I still have the mother frag, and the yellow/green mother frag died. So these two that were half dead have colored up without any trace element dosing. Only what’s in my salt and amino’s. Plus good water change regimen and strong lighting coupled with stability. This is not photoshopped at all.

sneezebeetle · Sep 4, 2019

Reefahholic said:
Check this comparison out. These two corals nearly died in my Triton Core7 incident. I fragged both of them (these tiny pieces) and the blue frag I still have the mother frag, and the yellow/green mother frag died. So these two that were half dead have colored up without any trace element dosing. Only what’s in my salt and amino’s. Plus good water change regimen and strong lighting coupled with stability. This is not photoshopped at all.

Thats amazing! Proof is in the pics [emoji41]

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Cody · Sep 4, 2019

dmccoy said:
I haven’t done a water change in over a year. My tank is 95% SPS with insane growth. 5 minutes a day dosing and I have the most amazing color and growth. There are many ways to run a tank.

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Of course, there are many ways to run a tank, and I know multiple people that are successful doing some variation of what you're doing. I tried it before and just found it to be too much work. Plus, if I can't test for it whenever I want, I personally don't feel comfortable. I'd rather not dose something without testing it more than every two months. Knowing me, I'd get busy with other projects and my tank would die overnight Haha!

Reefahholic · Sep 5, 2019

I tried to test Strontium, iodine, and Potassium. Gezz! Almost a waste of time. They’re so many steps and room for error. Does anybody know any good tests kits for those. Do they really work and are they accurate?

Cody · Sep 5, 2019

Reefahholic said:
I tried to test Strontium, iodine, and Potassium. Gezz! Almost a waste of time. They’re so many steps and room for error. Does anybody know any good tests kits for those. Do they really work and are they accurate?

After about three tries of the Salifert Strontium test kit I gave up. If you dang near exhale at the wrong time it changes the results. Not accurate enough for my liking. I just use a stenner pump to deal with that issue. Ever heard of a stenner pump?

Reefahholic · Sep 6, 2019

Cody said:
After about three tries of the Salifert Strontium test kit I gave up. If you dang near exhale at the wrong time it changes the results. Not accurate enough for my liking. I just use a stenner pump to deal with that issue. Ever heard of a stenner pump?

I am changing your last name to stenner. Cody Stenner!

GHL or Apex Dose could do basically the same. GHL definitely. Accuracy down to 0.1 mL at super slow rate.

Reefahholic · Sep 6, 2019

I got one for you Dr. Stenner....

Red Sea Trace Elements calls to dose 1mL for every 20ppm of Calcium added to 100/L or 26.4/G of water volume.

I'm currently dosing 26mL daily of ESV Calcium. How many mL's would it take to equal 20 ppm of Calcium.

Pro tip: ESV Calcium component is 62,752 mg/L.

If you can't get the answer....Let me know and I'll post it.

Reefahholic · Sep 6, 2019

Another one...

BRS Alkalinity is 1900 meq/Liter
ESV Alkalinity is 2800 meq/Liter
Reef Fusion is 4400 meq/Liter
Carbo Calcium is 5600 meq/Liter

What is the difference is percentages of these 4 buffers?

bpb · Sep 6, 2019

Truthfully I haven’t noticed any discernible difference from any coral nutrition products, despite trying to rationalize how they’re benefiting the tank. I’ve tried the Red Sea products, acro power, KZ, and Elos. Multiple
Bottles of each. Using nothing now for about 6 months and the tank looks the same as it did.

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Reefahholic · Sep 6, 2019

bpb said:
Truthfully I haven’t noticed any discernible difference from any coral nutrition products, despite trying to rationalize how they’re benefiting the tank. I’ve tried the Red Sea products, acro power, KZ, and Elos. Multiple
Bottles of each. Using nothing now for about 6 months and the tank looks the same as it did.

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I will say this with all honesty bpd. No BS....I can't speak for many other Amino's, but Acro Power 100% works. Highly recommend it.

I can say without any doubt and ill put $100 on it. If you have pale starving corals and you dose Acro Power....no doubt they will gain a lot better color.

At first I really thought it was snake oil. I'm a big skeptic! With the name and the millions of products that Julian sprung sells...I didn't have faith. Well...I do now.

Another product that a lot of people really like is FUEL. So if you're not dosing anything, I definitely recommend one of those two.

bpb · Sep 6, 2019

Reefahholic said:
I will say this with all honesty bpd. No BS....I can't speak for many other Amino's, but Acro Power 100% works. Highly recommend it.

I can say without any doubt and ill put $100 on it. If you have pale starving corals and you dose Acro Power....no doubt they will gain a lot better color.

At first I really thought it was snake oil. I'm a big skeptic! With the name and the millions of products that Julian sprung sells...I didn't have faith. Well...I do now.

Another product that a lot of people really like is FUEL. So if you're not dosing anything, I definitely recommend one of those two.

I won’t claim what they can do for someone else because every tank is different. My water is probably dirty enough that it’s just not needed. But I’ve gone through probabky 2L of acro power, on 2 different occasions, and took a lengthy holiday between, and haven’t noticed any difference in my own tank. I don’t tend have much starving or paleness. My tank is far from ultra low nutrient. I haven’t tested nitrate in a year or so, but my PO4 is around 0.1 usually

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Reefahholic · Sep 6, 2019

bpb said:
I won’t claim what they can do for someone else because every tank is different. My water is probably dirty enough that it’s just not needed. But I’ve gone through probabky 2L of acro power, on 2 different occasions, and took a lengthy holiday between, and haven’t noticed any difference in my own tank. I don’t tend have much starving or paleness. My tank is far from ultra low nutrient. I haven’t tested nitrate in a year or so, but my PO4 is around 0.1 usually
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Well, if you have a dirty tank, you won't notice a big difference in color. It's kinda like having some orchids or house plants for a few years without feeding them. Once you give them proper food at the right time of year they put out flowers, grow a new limb, leaves, etc.

My friend ReefSpy will tell you the same thing.

bpb · Sep 6, 2019

I’ve observed similar results running an ultra low nutrient system, with low alkalinity, and supplementing a lot of amino acids, as I have running a more moderate nutrient tank with higher alk and not supplementing as much on coral reefs. I can only surmise the liquid aminos are just filling in the gaps on a leaner tank. Whereas one run a little more moderate just doesn’t need it

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Matyas · Sep 6, 2019

Maybe a coincidence, but after my trigger bit me and a few drops of blood got into my tank my montis looked good as ever! ... Yea my trigger can be a jerk...

bpb · Sep 6, 2019

Matyas said:
Maybe a coincidence, but after my trigger bit me and a few drops of blood got into my tank my montis looked good as ever! ... Yea my trigger can be a jerk...

Not the first time I’ve heard of blood causing extreme PE. I wouldn’t recommend it though. Mycobacterium marinum is a very real thing

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Reefahholic · Sep 7, 2019

So you're a fish poop and high nutrient guy for coral nutrition?

bpb · Sep 7, 2019

Reefahholic said:
So you're a fish poop and high nutrient guy for coral nutrition?

I guess if I were to pick a side it would be that one. But I really am against the “this is the best way to run a reef” mentality. People’s budgets, free time, goals, and metric or success are all so different.

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webster1234 · Sep 7, 2019

Reefahholic said:
Another one...

BRS Alkalinity is 1900 meq/Liter
ESV Alkalinity is 2800 meq/Liter
Reef Fusion is 4400 meq/Liter
Carbo Calcium is 5600 meq/Liter

What is the difference is percentages of these 4 buffers?

That's why you buy the raw powder and mix your own. So you know EXACTLY what is in it.

Reefahholic · Sep 7, 2019

bpb said:
I guess if I were to pick a side it would be that one. But I really am against the “this is the best way to run a reef” mentality. People’s budgets, free time, goals, and metric or success are all so different.
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I wouldn’t say there’s a best way, I’d say there’s ways that grow coral much healthier and faster than others.

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