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Hello everyone! :D

I wasn't going to do this, initially, but felt that it's my civic duty to show you all the struggles that I'm about to endure as I build-up my first reef aquarium. Being a total newbie to the hobby, but not to expensive hobbies in general, I am trying my hardest to do this right the first time. (I used-to build/offroad Jeeps and Early Broncos and I wasted a LOT of money doing that, but I digress...) Of course, Murphy's Law is on the mind as I struggle through my first attempts at this.

It all started with some Green Spotted Puffers I purchased at a new Walmart, in The Woodlands. My daughter thought they were cute, and I figured I had enough FW experience to keep them buoyant for a long while. Well, as studies showed, these are a brackish fish, and they are known to thrive in SW. As further studies insisted, they need larger amounts of space (about 30g per fish). I had three... I'm down to two (may Booger R.I.P.). So, a fire was lit and I've yet to extinguish it.

So, first things first... I got a very nice Oceanic 92g corner from our very own Scott. He gave me a great deal and offered a ton of great advice. When I first walked into his house, I thought I might need (at least) some snorkeling gear! He and his family were very hospitable and it was an absolute pleasure meeting all of them. My kids still want to go back! LOL!

I'm going to try and add pics of what I've done so far... it's been very slow, but I'm in no hurry as my little puffers are doing fine in a little nano I set for them (temporarily).

Here's some pics of the day I brought all the stuff home from Scott's:

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Here's a little problem I knew I'd have to take care of:

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Yep! That's a pic of the inside of the stock stand. Yikes!

Here's the tank on it's stand... I think it's pretty sweet and has a great footprint for what I'm looking to do:

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Looks great as is! But, there's still that question going on in the back of mind... "Will that last?" Hmmmm....

So, I broke out the trusty level and started taking measurements of the things that I know are level, to compare to the tank on it's stock stand:

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Here's the level I used. I checked the garage floor first, and compared it to the 75g stand I have it on in this picture. The measurements of the floor and the stand were nearly identical.

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First bubble.

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Second bubble.

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Third bubble... Again... these bubbles were nearly identical to the garage floor itself.

Next, was measuring the new tank on it's stock stand:

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From back to front...

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Right away I knew there was something "fishy" going on here... (horrible pun intended).

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Ruh-roh, raggy!

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:lol:

Based on those measurements, I had a gentle slope in the tank. It's obvious by looking at the water damage that there's problems; but, it's always nice to have certified tools tell you officially.

All things considered, I didn't really care about this and I'm still ho-humming about it. I knew going into this tank that I'd have some work to do if I want to start a new hobby. (Also, Scott's deal was too good to pass up!)

So now the fun begins! I get to play with the old wood tools that I bought a few years ago! You see, I built a deck on my old house in Ohio, then put the tools away "forever!" Now, I get to Tim-the-Toolman-It, and go to town!

Right now, I've only built a partial frame for it... Here's the pics:

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The staging area needs cleaned up a bit. :lol: That 75g stand became my workbench. 8)

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Da' wood. (no minivan cracks)

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The template.

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::grunting::

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::applause::

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Another angle. I can't remember what the thickness of the ply is, but it's almost an inch thick.

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Mocking up.

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Booyah! It's 34" high. I actually planned it this tall. That's like 4-5" taller than it's previous, pressure-treated brother.

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I put the canopy on it just to get a gander.

So, what do you think so far? Do you think I should frame the ply, or will it be strong enough as is? I stood on top of this thing, and it didn't budge. Keep in mind that I plan on putting plywood on the back and sides, so that should add to the structural integrity... Thoughts so far?
 

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Based on those measurements, I had a gentle slope in the tank.

Leo, I had no idea. I don't even know how something like that would happen! It sat perfectly in my room though, you guys saw it running.

Once you skin the you shouldn't have any strength problems but before you do you should check to see if the sump is going to go in through the opening you made for the door. You may wan to make one of those braces removeable or widen the door and put a small header in.
 
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Based on those measurements, I had a gentle slope in the tank.

Leo, I had no idea. I don't even know how something like that would happen! It sat perfectly in my room though, you guys saw it running.

Once you skin the you shouldn't have any strength problems but before you do you should check to see if the sump is going to go in through the opening you made for the door. You may wan to make one of those braces removeable or widen the door and put a small header in.

I know right! 8O It looked perfectly fine in your house, man. It's all good though! You more than made up for Oceanic's stand building skills (or lack thereof) with all the stuff you gave me. Seriously, I left there with a smile, and I still have one on my face.

Thanks for the tip. I kind of felt the same way about "skinning" it. Also, I did test fit the sump already. I'm going to reuse that wet/dry one that you gave me, for the time being. It, actually, should work pretty well. :D
 
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Okay, so I just got a lot of stuff sold, while working on "Project Honey-Do" so it looks like I get to buy more wood this weekend. I'm going to do something a "little" different with the stand, since I know these things can be a PITA when working with plumbing underneath it.

I do have some questions and was looking for advice if you all have any to offer.

1) I really like the way some of the foam rock walls look on normal tanks. I was thinking of trying it with this thing. Should I give it a whirl, or is it not worth the effort?

2) Should I drill the back of the glass to set up a closed loop system? I was thinking 2 holes on each piece of glass in the back corner. Thoughts?

Thanks!
 

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I personally would not do the foam, no experience with it either however. That tank's sides are probably tempered? It can be a risk either way, closed loops are neat though.
 
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If they are tempered, I didn't know... shoot!

As far as the foam is concerned, I thought it would look nice because I'm really not into the coraline build up that grows on the glass. Plus, it'd be kind of a pain cleaning those glass panels off, when it finally gets set up. Thoughts?
 

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If it is an oceanic you should be able to call them with the serial number and find out for sure. If nothing else just run plumbing into the overflow then drill into that. Might be a little messy plumbing wise but it should work.
 
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http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=551e717780fdcfd6c5dbbb4c7f7f4360&threadid=1300282

nice thread for foam reef build.

That's one of the main reasons I'm thinking of doing it. I think Kannin's turned out great, but I've never seen something like that in a 92g corner, before.
 
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If it is an oceanic you should be able to call them with the serial number and find out for sure. If nothing else just run plumbing into the overflow then drill into that. Might be a little messy plumbing wise but it should work.

Thanks Reuben. I'll check w/them.
 
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No, nothing yet bro. I'm still working on some "honey-do's" and a big college load right now. Cool thing is our home office looks great! Bad thing is my garage looks like an aquarium stockpile. :D

I'm hoping to have more done tomorrow... Thanks for asking! Day of rest will probably turn into a day of garage heat. :D
 
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I've decided on this build that I'm going to "kerf-cut" the front of the stand I'm building, so that I can keep the 1/4 circle look. With that being said, I'm now in the market for a decently priced table saw, that I'll probably only use for this darned hobby. :D

So, this project is on the back-burner. I've said this on a couple other threads, but I'll say it here too. I'm working on my 75g right now so that I can see if I can figure out how to get a "semi-successful" tank up and running. I don't want to mess up this 92g, so I'm taking it slow.

More to follow... one of these days. :)
 
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Yesterday, I woke up and decided to go on a bike ride. Got out to the garage and went "!@#%! Look at this mess!" So, I decided to straighten things up in there.

After doing a brief cleaning, the 92 called to me. So, I got out some basic tools and put a little more bracing on the stand, and partially skinned the back of the stand with some 5/8" ply. It's extremely strong now! I got on top of it and jumped up and down! I also cut a hole for my return and drain plumbing.

I had to take the door off the hinges to get it into the house. It, at it's shortest measurements, is 34". The wife helped me move it in. The tank, at it's shortest measurements, is 25". That was easy to get through the door, but pretty heavy to heave around! Wifey no likey!

However, when I got it in the house, and set it in it's future home, she really liked the way it looked. It's the perfect height, and the possibilities are endless!

I still plan on kerf cutting the front of the stand, but my wife is more into the "boxy" look. Understandable, and easier... but, I kind of like the "contemporary look." We'll see how that goes... well, actually, we'll see how well my "woodworking skills" are! haha!

In it for the haul now... will post pics as soon as I can.

Oh, I also leak tested the future sump. I accidentally dropped it so I wanted to make sure it still held water... whew... it does! :)
 
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Here's some pics of where I'm at right now:

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Catfish? (okay... that was awful)

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My wife made me do it. ;)

So, I cleaned it up a bit, and put it back on the stand to just take a look at it. I still need to seal the stand, and will probably just do that in the house with Kilz... Maybe tomorrow or Monday... I dunno... I'm probably going to paint the background black, too.

More to follow!
 

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Hey, neighbor and fellow soon to be reefer. I'm not so good at building but I do love saltwater aquariums. My son introduced me, will be 2 years in January.
He has a 75 gallon and a 42 gallon. I have a 24 gallon nano. My only warning is first check here.
Living so far away from the really cool LFS we sometimes are lured into a quick fix.
You can save alot of money and frustration with our trusty Marshians and Sponsors. Trust me it is not worth it. I love your take it slow attitude. You saw what buying the fish 1st got you into. LOL just kidding...
Please, let us know if either my son or I can help out with anything.
 
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Thanks! I appreciate that G1K!

Right now I'm basically trying to figure out skimmer options. I don't really know the difference in the different types of skimmers out there. I've heard of needle wheel, down draft, and one other I think... The first bit of advice I got from a fellow reefer was to "not" skimp on skimmers and lights. I'm no where near figuring out my lighting solution (that should be fun), so I'm still up in the air with the right choice of skimming for this thing... The same guy told me to buy a good used one if possible.

Either way, I'm just having fun with this. It's nice having a hobby that the whole family can enjoy. :) (for once)
 
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So, today I filled up the tank with a cheap skimmer and the wet/dry in place. I got a Mag 9.5 with the deal, and it doesn't seem to put out much pressure. I don't know if I need to clean that pump with vinegar and water, or what... ???

Also, the durso makes a lot of gurgling noises. I'm assuming this is because of the pump issues... if I even have an issue. I would think that a Mag 9.5 (as big as it is) would push that water much more quicker than what I'm seeing.

Any way, I'm going to have to get a new flex hose that goes from the drain to the wet/dry because it's leaking pretty bad. It was spraying all over my non-sealed stand. :( I wonder if they make some clear tubing or something that I can just route to the wet/dry... ? I may have to do some hard plumbing to nip this in the bud, right off the bat.

Next, I'll be draining and painting the stand. It held water all day and I let it run for awhile. I put a cheap skimmer on there, but since it was just tap water, it produced no bubbles at all. Well, I guess that's normal.

Gotta love trial and error... more to follow...
 

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If the durso is gurglleing then you need a differnent sized hole in the top. What I have found works the best is start with a 1/8 inch hole and go one drill bit larger until it is quiet. Speakin of that I need to go drill my overflows the prevent backflow.....

I would suggest using black vinyl tubing for the overflow. IT can be bought at home depot or lowes by the foot in sizes all the way up to 3".

The reason I say black is to prevent algae growth on the walls of the tubing. This can eventually block the tubing quite a bit and make for restrictions. You will still need to clean the tubing AT LEAST once a year if not more. The clear tubing works just as well but if you look at peoples tank threads and see tubing that USED to be clear, its not a nasty brown color and looks gross. I would rather start with a black tubing that stays the same, never looks dirty and prevents algae growth.
 
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