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im halfway though my copper treatment and im starting to now learn about removing it ive moved all the rocks away and put them in a 5 gallon bucket and stuffed part of a carbon media in there. but it does say that it wont go in my substrate but im going to assume that it means it just doesn't coat heavily so how will i get it out of there. i will do heavy water changes and put the carbon filter back in
 

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I assumed that pretty much anything that gets hit with copper is permanently in your “quartile crew” of items and equipment? I’ve never dosed copper so it’s not really my area of knowledge though.
 

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I'm not quite understanding exactly what you did but if you treated your tank with copper and left the sand in there, the sand will absorb the copper. The copper will stay in the sand and slowly leach back out over time rendering it useless for anything but a fish only tank. You can not add any coral to the tank as long as that sand is in there.

Also, since the sand absorbs some of the copper, you can't accurately dose it for the fish. That is why treatment is supposed to be done in a glass only tank.
Again, this is assuming from your post that you took your live rock out before treatment but left the sand. Please clarify.
 
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well the product says it shouldn't coat but im assuming it does so im going to treat the rocks and sand with resin heavily water changes for 1 month which is the adverage for removing it from a system when using resin or even longer but its a fish only tank and i have no inverts and dont plan on any for a long long long time, because what im hearing is that copper can be removed ( i use this site and i ask questions for advice but i also check forums and questions people asked elsewhere ) it is a pain and takes a long time but with resin you can remove it from sand and rocks when it leeches out or coat it in a bucket with resin to remove it individually
resin (Marine Depot Bulk Deionization Resin - Marine Depot )
 

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So I was going to jump in with no, no, no but after further research it appears others have treated display tank with copper, removed it and were able to keep inverts/corals.

Wow who would have thunk it?...

But they are also talking about doing multiple LARGE water changes, wiping down hard surfaces and using poly filter chemical media pads, cuprisorb, gac, and/or triton detox to remove at end.

Seems the large water changes and poly pads are most effective.

They are using Hanna high range Cu tester and ICP testing to verify that Cu has indeed been removed from tank.

I still wouldn't do it. Seems you could blow a lot of $$ on chemical media+any dip from therapeutic levels of Cu could render the treatment ineffective.


 
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well my view is that 3 months of rsin which is about 11 bucks for 1.25 pounds of it and new filter media is cheaper than new rocks and sand and water and since i am NO WERE near ready, rich , smart or wanting to get corals and i only ever had one shrimp and he died so i promised my self i wont do inveterate till im sure im ready ?( during the freeze the temp in my 30- gallon went down the fish went to the heater but the shrimp couldnt so i lost him. the copper will leach out over time from the sand and rocks but with the resin in the filter and the tank it will be tanked care of quickly and many water changes will be done i did not want to use copper but i made a super ich and i used a treatment which had almost the same desc as all the others so without knowing if it would work and playing roulette with my fish's lives i made a decision that copper is safest for the fish although it would be a nightmare to get rid of but its better to have a fish only tank for a year if i have to than a fish grave yard
 
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