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Just curious, does anyone keep clean up crews in quarantine? In my experience even a well kept tank that is pest free is susceptible to pest introduction from cuc. Some vendors keep/grow them in fishless systems but they can still have vermitids or coral pests such as
aiptasia. What do you do? Just buy and throw it in the tank?
 

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Guilty of acclimation and just putting them in recently with some ninja star snails, however, grab some random container/small aio w/bubbler or simple pump, put it by a window and watch for 3 months if you are patient, and not needing them right away.
 

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Depends on the invert. I do minimum 45 days at 80+ to speed up the lifecycle of things like ich for all inverts like snails, shrimp, crabs etc that come through and seems to work well. This doesn't work for everything though. Everything like sponges, coral, sea cucumbers and other sensitive inverts need 76 days in fallow tank as even sps can transfer ich. These kind of things you can't bump the temp up to speed things up and they need a proper temp tank for the full 76 days.
 
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Good to know. I try to keep a pretty watchful eye and cuc is where I think I got nailed. I take frags off plugs, tank went fallow for 8 weeks, fish treated prior to introduction. Still got aptaisia and vermitids and idk what. At least the Berghia dealt with the aptaisia.
 
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I have turbo snails in qt right now. Plan on going 45 days before introduction to dt. I feed them nori every evening and do frequent wc. I am most worried about parasites because my fish are simply too big to transfer to qt and medicate. I have already gotten vermitid snails from somewhere and wished there was a way to get rid of them. Damn things are everywhere.
 

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I have turbo snails in qt right now. Plan on going 45 days before introduction to dt. I feed them nori every evening and do frequent wc. I am most worried about parasites because my fish are simply too big to transfer to qt and medicate. I have already gotten vermitid snails from somewhere and wished there was a way to get rid of them. Damn things are everywhere.
Bumblebee snails work alright, but really only keep them in check. They seem to eat the babies like crazy but don't touch the big guys who then multiply like crazy. I crush the big ones I find and Bumbleebees seem to keep the small ones from growing up most of the time and my tanks that had them seem to be mostly clear now.

Good to know. I try to keep a pretty watchful eye and cuc is where I think I got nailed. I take frags off plugs, tank went fallow for 8 weeks, fish treated prior to introduction. Still got aptaisia and vermitids and idk what. At least the Berghia dealt with the aptaisia.
Unfortunately the offspring of both of these are microscopic and require a microscope and visual inspection to make sure no babies as anything we might do in QT to get rid of them would also kill the inverts. I've heard wait 90 days for any babies on whatever you're QTing to grow up enough so you can physically remove or kill them before they create offspring, but I haven't tried this as seems like a long wait for maybe no payoff. A good scrub, when possible, a couple times during the QT seems like the best method to prevent these sort of things.
 

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Definitely a good idea to quarantine - the only pest I have is the vermetid snails in my current tank - will try my best to quarantine everything for the new big tank. Mine are strange though...they don't throw a web when I'm feeding the fish.

I got a large CUC order from a fishless facility and got some vermetid snails on the tiny snails. I quarantined but missed a few I guess.
You can definitley control aiptasia (I have none) but vermetid snails not sure.

Even with extreme quarantine it's possible to transfer vermetids:

 
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I totally feel that. I try my best to inspect under light and magnifying glass and still.

In regards to the vermitids, I have had them in previous tanks and they cast huge stringers that irritated all the corals and it was terrible. I got some others in a different tank and they were like yours. No net, no irritated corals. I have heard that butterflys go after them but it’s hit or miss.
 

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I second the bumblebee snails. They knocked mine out multiple times. No issues with the bigger vermetid snails either.
 

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