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Cure for STN / RTN...Finally!!!

Reefahholic

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#1
So after all these years we might have a possible cure! It’s already being tested and so far it’s working pretty well!

Turns out that coral parasites are most likely causing the RTN/STN after the coral has a stress event. This has been confirmed by several microscopic videos and images. We’re not 100%, but it sure appears this way. Not to mention there’s multiple species present. Pre and post treatments have already been done with some success.

So the Product that’s working fairly well is called Prime Coral Stop RTN.

Psxerholic has been doing some great work with it and many others including myself are testing now.

Hopefully we can end this once and for all, but we have a long way to go. In the next few years I see these events being well controlled and possibly completely controlled. Please join the discussion and give your input both here and R2R on Psxerholic’s thread.




Go to page 57 for latest talk:

Andre’s Full blown 300Gallon SPS Reeftank up within a week ;-)


Prime Coral STOP RTN
 

Cody

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#3
If parasites were the culprit for tissue loss then why do entire coral reefs in the ocean that have the same parameters every day, more or less, all of a sudden start losing tissue when the heat cranks up in the summer months these days? Why is it that massive parameter swings cause sps to lose tissue? Why is it that lack of light, or excessive, cause corals to lose tissue? My point is that there are many causes for corals to lose tissue, as tissue loss is more or less their way of coping with an unruly environment, and parasites are only one of them. This is snake oil.
 

Reefahholic

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#5
Cody, post that on the thread

If parasites were the culprit for tissue loss then why do entire coral reefs in the ocean that have the same parameters every day, more or less, all of a sudden start losing tissue when the heat cranks up in the summer months these days? Why is it that massive parameter swings cause sps to lose tissue? Why is it that lack of light, or excessive, cause corals to lose tissue? My point is that there are many causes for corals to lose tissue, as tissue loss is more or less their way of coping with an unruly environment, and parasites are only one of them. This is snake oil.
 

Tstew32

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#6
So after all these years we might have a possible cure! It’s already being tested and so far it’s working pretty well!

Turns out that coral parasites are most likely causing the RTN/STN after the coral has a stress event. This has been confirmed by several microscopic videos and images. We’re not 100%, but it sure appears this way. Not to mention there’s multiple species present. Pre and post treatments have already been done with some success.

So the Product that’s working fairly well is called Prime Coral Stop RTN.

Psxerholic has been doing some great work with it and many others including myself are testing now.

Hopefully we can end this once and for all, but we have a long way to go. In the next few years I see these events being well controlled and possibly completely controlled. Please join the discussion and give your input both here and R2R on Psxerholic’s thread.




Go to page 57 for latest talk:

Andre’s Full blown 300Gallon SPS Reeftank up within a week ;-)


Prime Coral STOP RTN
Is this video showing before or after tissue loss? Could they possible be feeding on dead coral or anything leftover at this point? Sorry hard to tell under microscope.


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Cody

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#7
Cody, post that on the thread
Nah, I have no desire to contribute to that nonsense. This is the SCAM (acronym for a tank filtration idea that was marketed and everyone got jazzed over, but turned out it's BS. I wish i was making that name up haha) version 2.0. A fool and his money will quickly be separated.
 

Cody

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#9
"Turns out that coral parasites are most likely causing the RTN/STN after the coral has a stress event. This has been confirmed by several microscopic videos and images. We’re not 100%, but it sure appears this way."

That statement right there is toxic.
 

Reefahholic

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#10
Cody you have obviously not read the threads. Just delete this one. I’d rather discuss it with people who are willing to do research and get to the bottom of this issue.
 

Reefahholic

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#12
Is this video showing before or after tissue loss? Could they possible be feeding on dead coral or anything leftover at this point? Sorry hard to tell under microscope.
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After the coral started to STN/RTN. It’s hard to put a colony under a scope, but there are some that work well for that. A smear is much easier to see especially when the scope is illuminated from the bottom. It’s currently being tested both ways. Pre dip and post dip. It’s interesting to see numbers that high on the necrosis line.
 

Reefahholic

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#15
They have an in tank treatment, but they say the fish need to be removed. Andre said he treated with fish and only lost one? I’ll text him tomorrow.
 

Cody

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#16
This reminds me of the time that I saw a crab eating on my green slimer. I saw the crab munching away, and I saw some tissue loss. Possibly, the crab is eating the flesh. The other possibility is that the crab is eating the mucus that is generated from the irritation, which caused the coral to lose skin. Those "parasites" are just as likely to be the clean up crew to the dying coral as they are to be the cause of it. With all other variables more or less constant in nature, drastic fluctuating temperature causes corals to lose skin. When a coral in your tank is given all the same parameters but the lights stay on for three days while you're on vacation, the corals lose skin. There are many variables that cause corals to lose skin, and parasites are just one of them. So far, what I've seen is correlation, not causation.

What makes it suspicious is that this new research, which exposes a problem, comes from working hand in hand with the company that sells the solution to this problem. Also, the active ingredient in said solution hasn't been exposed yet, so there's no way for others to test this as an independent variable. Seems more like a sales pitch than research.
 

Matyas

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#18
The only parasite i have had experience with to CONTRIBUTE to stn/rtn is red bugs. Most often with frags and already stressed corals. I believe that corals can withstand (most) pests if they are healthy. I had red bugs in qt tank one time and it led to some issues.
 

Cody

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#20
Yes, Cody whatever you say. Have you been testing anything to find out??

I'm not an antagonist to good ideas. Lord knows that any of us would like to save a dying coral. I also know that no direct correlation between those "parasites" and skin loss has been demonstrated. Yet, a solution to a non-proven problem was marketed by you before any sound evidence was presented.

Are you familiar with Russell's Teapot?
Russell's teapot - Wikipedia
 
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