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I am wondering if regular automated water changes can replace the need for dosing and possibly, a skimmer (as well address a variety of other issues). It is understood that in larger, highly populated reef systems water changes like that may not be plausible simply due to the regular large amount of water needed, But does any one have any experience using automated (say 20% tank volume) weekly water changes instead of dosing multi part solutions?
 

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I did 5 gallons a day on each of my two systems (Now only one system)

From my limited 4-month experience, all I can say is that I have had to dose 2-part maybe three times and every two or three weeks. My Alk has been exactly at 8.9 for the past three weeks now without having to dose. I don't remember Calcium, but I will check it tomorrow.

I would not use AWC to replace my skimmer for multiple reasons, but I will defer to @Cody for a proper/correct response.
 
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I know some people prefer No skimmer, AWC or not. I’m not in that camp since skimmers have visual confirmation of what is being removed from the water column. That nasty gunk is preventing your water from being crystal clear. But 20% weekly WC would be around 100% every 5 weeks. If the animal load is not too high, it should be sufficient for crystal clear water, plenty of nutrients and low bio load. But that’s just my opinion nothing more. Stand by for real world info over the next few weeks lol.. thanks for the feedback.


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Personally I still use my skimmer and it is producing so I’m sure it’s needed but as far as dosing, I still need to dose alk but never do I dose calcium or mag... I use red sea pro salt and run my water change system for 1hr per day with a stunner pump. Not real sure how many gph that is.
 
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Lol I am using Red Sea Pro as well. Am only running a 10g nano that’s cycling right now. GHL profilux mini wifi supposed to be arriving tomorrow. I had not decided in what direction I was going to go yet but after some thought, I figured I can run 2g AWC and ATO with 3 heads on a dosing pump. I also have controllable/programmable outlets on that profilux but probably won’t even need them. Just trying to keep it simple. With a little tweaking, I can probably refill ATO, add fresh SW and dump old SW at the same time once a week..


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My system is 120+ gallons... a stenner pump is this special pump @Cody talked me into buying that transfers the old and new water at the exact same rate. He can better explain this whole process as he’s the one that designed and installed it.
 

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Stenner Peristaltic Pump


What is a peristaltic pump?
A peristaltic pump is a self-priming pump that achieves pumping action by moving a system of rollers against a flexible tube. The pumped fluids (e.g., chemical feeds) are never exposed to the air or to the mechanical moving parts. The roller design prevents siphoning by providing a constant seal on the pumping tube.
 

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Alright, so as Gregg and triggerfan mentioned, I have convinced both of them, in addition to others that have the space, to make the switch. Here's my two cents.

As far as dosing, if you're running a softie and LPS tank, it will do 95% of the lifting. Even with some sps, like Gregg, you just might have to only dose alk. Some of that is contingent on the salt you use and the rate at which your corals grow. You'll never need to dose anything more than alk or calcium from what I've seen though (again, that's contingent upon you using a decent salt). Your trace elements will be in check and never swing. Daily water changes don't just dose, they also remove unwanted things.

As far as waste removal, the stenner pump alone probably won't be able to cover everything. I'd most certainly recommend running a skimmer simultaneously. The fact is, 2-3% daily, or even 30% weekly just isn't enough to meet the nutrient export demands. Eventually, your nitrates and phosphates will get out of hand and algae will thrive. However, with a daily water change, you're essentially reaching the same amount of export on a weekly basis, as if you were doing a weekly water change, but the nitrates and phosphates won't fluctuate as much. Corals need phosphate and nitrate for photosynthesis, so instead of having a larger weekly swing, you're getting a smaller daily export.

On both the dosing and exporting side of a daily water change, you're better off. It's more stable. There's a reason we don't dose our alkalinity solution just once a week, and a reason we don't turn the GFO reactor on once a week. A smoother, more gradual process allows more control over parameters and is more stable for the corals.
 
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