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Sorry global warming is a scam. The coldest weather I've been thru was 50 years ago and the hottest weather was 25 years ago. In the 80s
all I heard was the new coming ice age. Just follow the money.
all I heard was the new coming ice age. Just follow the money.
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Does that mean we get an additional 20% off of harbor freight generators?!
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do you have a generator?
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He has the same 22k generac that you do
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I lost electricity 4 times the first night of the freeze. Think my generac pretty much paid for itself.
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Lol California is experiencing an "atmospheric river".. new terminology
It was coined in the early 1990's when they were studying weather patterns on the west coast when we got the ability to study that stuff. They have them regularly, they are just getting much larger and more destructive so they are becoming national news.
I grew up in MN. My Grandparents were in Detroit Lakes. Fargo ND was the closest weather report. In the summer you would take Fargo high, subtract 10 and that was Detroit Lakes high. In the winter, you add 10. Water has a specific heat capacity about 2,000 times that of air per unit volume. Since we are next to the gulf, we have a huge buffer and do not see extremes as badly as other people do. Galveston is a good example of that since they are always milder than central Houston.
Other places are not as lucky. Ski resorts are being torn down because places that got snow every year for all of recorded history have not gotten any in 10 years. The EU had runways melt because they hit temps that just a few decades ago were thought to be impossible.
It is also not about the highs, it is about the averages for the whole planet. Hot air rises, cold air falls, I think we all know that. The hotter the equator, the more air rises, the faster it rises, and the more water it can carry. If it rises too fast, it can actually drop a lot of the water where it rises and not take as much to where it falls. So you have hot air rising at the equator, then falling further north. The warmer the north is, the further that air goes moving where that moisture is taken. If it goes further north, our bread belt gets dry. Granted, it is not that simple, you also have the suns heating going around the planet. All that heating and cooling and rising and falling and mountains getting in the way, and different areas heating more while others heat less. That makes the trade winds and the jet stream. Land and water are getting warmed at different speeds as well. Those changes impact where rain falls, how it falls, and when it falls. They also shift the driving forces behind the jet stream allowing it to wobble, get weaker, dip lower, and go higher. That makes it easier and more likely that the jet dips letting cold blasts down, or goes way up letting heat blasts further north.
So yes, global warming can cause record cold. As the poles warm up, the forces that keep the cold there weaken allowing slugs of cold to drop down on us more often, even though the average temp is going up.
As for follow the money, it is not just about who stands to gain, but who stands to lose as well. O&G is a multi trillion dollar industry that props up nations. If they admitted to their roll and were made to pay, they stand to lose insane amounts of money and power.
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Many scientist have been caught red handed posting false numbers. This has been proven numerous times. Im saying we had colder winters 50 yrs ago
not just now. 25 years ago it got to the 110 in the Montgomery area will never forget it because I lost a lot of livestock that day.
Read up on it it was about 20 yrs ago they were crying another ice age was coming. The fact is the numbers have not been tracked long enough for them to have a clue about whats going on. All I can say if they keep building wind mills and solar panel farms there is going to be a lot of people die from weather.
not just now. 25 years ago it got to the 110 in the Montgomery area will never forget it because I lost a lot of livestock that day.
Read up on it it was about 20 yrs ago they were crying another ice age was coming. The fact is the numbers have not been tracked long enough for them to have a clue about whats going on. All I can say if they keep building wind mills and solar panel farms there is going to be a lot of people die from weather.
Scientists are not Science. One person lying about numbers or getting them wrong does not mean the whole thing is wrong. The way it is supposed to work is that a Scientist comes up with an explanation for something and a set of tests to prove or disprove it. Then they do those tests and publish them. What is supposed to happen is then other Scientists try and validate, replicate, or disprove what the first one found. Then they publish and they look at each others work, try and find flaws in testing or the logic behind it, and then validate, replicate, or disprove. After a while the community of people that have spent their lives to trying to figure something out come to a consensus of an explanation using what we know.
What really happens is that one person publishes something that can be twisted or used as click bait, then industry twists it to justify what they are doing or media uses it to get those sweet sweet views.
So, what happened is a paper was published about how the great Atlantic gyre is fueled by ice fields and what have you and that they were going away and the gyre was showing signs of weakening. Also, that the EU are is about the same latitude as Siberia and is kept warm by that gyre, so if it failed the EU could fall into an ice age of sorts. So media ran with Scientists say we are going to have another ice age. Meanwhile other Scientists were verifying data sets and models, looking for flaws, coming up with tests to validate or disprove the conclusion and not saying anything because they were busy trying to validate or disprove. Eventually they came out with, yeah, that could happen sorta, but will take a very long time and when you factor in these other things these different areas would not see that bad of an impact. Then the media reports, scientists were wrong, now the world is gong to x instead of y.
Same thing happened with eggs. Media was all, Scientists say eggs are bad for you, now they say they are good for you, now they say they are bad for you again, they should make up their minds, hahaha. Really Scientists were like, hey guys, I was looking over this data and found this pattern. Then someone else was like, yeah, but did you notice this other thing that kinda negates that? Then someone else was like, you know what, when you add more samples this other pattern emerges. Then someone else was like, you know what, there are actually two types of cholesterol and when you factor in that it explains the differences and all our findings make sense.
As for people dying from the weather, if you are referring to the freeze we had, solar and wind were the least impacted by it. The vast majority of the loss was in gas and coal both in total production and in percentage of the individual means of production. This front we just had, I can't find anything suggesting solar or wind had any issues or did not hit forecasted production amounts. There were several fossil fuel plants that went offline and caused us to get a conservation warning though.
I know a lot of people are going around saying it is the EPA's fault people died in the big freeze since they would not let us run old coal plants. I have a friend that has bought that hook line and sinker. The coal piles got rained on, then froze solid since we don't cover them. We also don't have machinery that could bust up the coal to shove into the plants and that is why they went offline. Having more plants online would not have solved the issue of not being able to get coal into them.
What really happens is that one person publishes something that can be twisted or used as click bait, then industry twists it to justify what they are doing or media uses it to get those sweet sweet views.
So, what happened is a paper was published about how the great Atlantic gyre is fueled by ice fields and what have you and that they were going away and the gyre was showing signs of weakening. Also, that the EU are is about the same latitude as Siberia and is kept warm by that gyre, so if it failed the EU could fall into an ice age of sorts. So media ran with Scientists say we are going to have another ice age. Meanwhile other Scientists were verifying data sets and models, looking for flaws, coming up with tests to validate or disprove the conclusion and not saying anything because they were busy trying to validate or disprove. Eventually they came out with, yeah, that could happen sorta, but will take a very long time and when you factor in these other things these different areas would not see that bad of an impact. Then the media reports, scientists were wrong, now the world is gong to x instead of y.
Same thing happened with eggs. Media was all, Scientists say eggs are bad for you, now they say they are good for you, now they say they are bad for you again, they should make up their minds, hahaha. Really Scientists were like, hey guys, I was looking over this data and found this pattern. Then someone else was like, yeah, but did you notice this other thing that kinda negates that? Then someone else was like, you know what, when you add more samples this other pattern emerges. Then someone else was like, you know what, there are actually two types of cholesterol and when you factor in that it explains the differences and all our findings make sense.
As for people dying from the weather, if you are referring to the freeze we had, solar and wind were the least impacted by it. The vast majority of the loss was in gas and coal both in total production and in percentage of the individual means of production. This front we just had, I can't find anything suggesting solar or wind had any issues or did not hit forecasted production amounts. There were several fossil fuel plants that went offline and caused us to get a conservation warning though.
I know a lot of people are going around saying it is the EPA's fault people died in the big freeze since they would not let us run old coal plants. I have a friend that has bought that hook line and sinker. The coal piles got rained on, then froze solid since we don't cover them. We also don't have machinery that could bust up the coal to shove into the plants and that is why they went offline. Having more plants online would not have solved the issue of not being able to get coal into them.
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Please keep this thread on topic.
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I am glad you guys did not get frozen out like last time 2 years ago. So much for global warming. It is more like weather pattern screw up.
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My winter rye grass looks like it’s dying, but only parts that didn’t have much protection. Can it get too cold for winter rye?
Up north all the grass looks like it dies and comes back. So, yeah, even the ones that survive will die on the surface. As for winter rye specifically... Guess you'll find out. lol
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Ya know if yall really want to get into this lets not forget about the Indonesia earthquake/sunami in 2004 that was so violent it knocked the earth off its axis. Now weather is not different, just the magnetic pole shift creates dynamic weather where it wasn't before. How many earthquakes do we have? Just think about that.
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Not time to put this away, more hot chocolate on the way.....
The month of January was the warmest on record... February won't be the coldest but will be colder then normal. End of the month should be cold again also.... then we get warm and stay warm. Hopefully not Hot.
The month of January was the warmest on record... February won't be the coldest but will be colder then normal. End of the month should be cold again also.... then we get warm and stay warm. Hopefully not Hot.
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RIP in peace my palms too. I have about 9 of them.
Fixed that for you.
