Gem Tang with Ich (1 Viewer)

[Rio1969]

My Gem Tang has Ich, I had started treating her with CP yesterday so I am not worried about the Ich. She has also been treated with Prazipro prior to starting the CP treatment.
What I am concerned about is the light marks on both sides of her body as you can see in the attached photos. Anyone know what could be the cause?

 

[Tenny]

Stress?

Fish was in QT the whole time right? My Kole Eye develops light spots like that and I felt it was either anemone sting or stress.

 

[Rio1969]

Stress?

Fish was in QT the whole time right? My Kole Eye develops light spots like that and I felt it was either anemone sting or stress.

Yes, she was in QT the whole time. She is the only fish in the QT tank.

 

[Reefahholic]

Looks like velvet to me. Or could be combo of both. I think I see flukes too.

 

[Reefahholic]

Can you get a close up of better quality. If it’s flukes I would FW dip (5 min) ASAP to get them off.

Dip fish in a clear glass bowl with a black towel or paper under it so you can see what comes off.

 

[Rio1969]

Can you get a close up of better quality. If it’s flukes I would FW dip (5 min) ASAP to get them off.

Dip fish in a clear glass bowl with a black towel or paper under it so you can see what comes off.

I will the some photos when she is in the FW dip, just waiting for the temperature to match the QT water.

 

[Reefahholic]

I will the some photos when she is in the FW dip, just waiting for the temperature to match the QT water.

Yes, temp match and try to hyper-oxygenate a little with an air-stone. If she’s got fairly good strength don’t panic at 3 min when she lays on the bottom. It’s normal.

 

[Reefahholic]

May I ask what medications you have on hand?

 

[kris4647]

I will the some photos when she is in the FW dip, just waiting for the temperature to match the QT water.

Suggest you go straight to

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Make an account and ask there. Some of the best folks in the industry on disease id and treatment. Prices have come down but that’s still an expensive fish.


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[Rio1969]

May I ask what medications you have on hand?

Prazipro. CP and antibiotics.
I did not see anything fall off during the FW dip, it appears that some of the white spots are gone.

 

[Rio1969]

 

[Mpolasek]

is cp copper if so WHY it is basically selling your soul but one thing i do when my fish get really weak it hasnt worked but i try and help them by lifting the to the top of the tank to get more oxygen with my hands or a net i also do that cause whether its my fault or not i might as well be there for the fishs last moments since im responsible for him

 

[Mpolasek]

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[Reefahholic]

Flukes are very hard to spot, but on this dark Gem Tang, it does appear these were flukes. Even if you didn't see anything fall off, it's likely they probably did. Can you take an updated picture after the dip and put one of the previous pics above side by side. Those would be good comparison photos.

I think I would get him on Copper Power if you know somebody that has a bottle just to be on the safer side. Not sure how well they tolerate CP, but if he can tolerate it I would dose some powder form of praziquantel with it like API General Cure. This will keep any remaining flukes under control. I suspect he would tolerate CP being a Zebrasoma Gemmatum, but I have never treated a Gem Tang with CP before.

 

[Reefahholic]

I just texted Humblefish. Go ahead with the CP if that is all you have. They tolerate it well. You can run liquid Prazipro, but it's a little more harsh than powder (API GC) when combined with CP. If you are dosing the Prazipro for flukes alone as a "stand alone medication" by itself, then the liquid Prazipro is better/stronger especially if you're dealing with Prazi resistant flukes.

 

[Rio1969]

CP is Chloroquine Phosphate. I had used the liquid Prazipro, my understanding is that I cannot use Prazipro together with Chloroquine Phosphate. I am actually do have some API GC.

 

[Reefahholic]

CP is Chloroquine Phosphate. I had used the liquid Prazipro, my understanding is that I cannot use Prazipro together with Chloroquine Phosphate. I am actually do have some API GC.

You can mix Praziquantel and Chloroquine Phosphate. It’s recommend that a powdered form is used (like API GC) as it is easier on the fish and safer when mixed with Copper or Chloroquine.

Can you post a before and after dip picture. If no Flukes then I would assume Velvet and treat for it to be safe. That fish was really discolored and I’m pretty sure stress alone wasn’t the only contributing factor. If it is Velvet... the name of the game is to alleviate the fish by treatment and water changes. When they are confined to a small QT, the Dinospores will explode rapidly into numbers that are extremely difficult to manage. Water changes and Therapeutic levels of Copper or CP seem to work the best for me. Keep us updated with the progress.

 

[Reefahholic]

BTW, if you do a 50% - 100% water change, be sure to add back that percentage of medication. I’d recommend 100% water change/ transfer when needed. Switching to a sterile tank that’s pre-medicated and heated prior to the fish going in is the best way. Keep the light levels low.

 

[Rio1969]

The following is a quote from Humblefish on R2R;

"Over the years I have successfully mixed CP with the following meds in powder form: praziquantel, metronidazole, nitrofurazone, kanamycin, erythromycin. I've never tried mixing it with Epsom salt, but I don't see that being issue. You just want to avoid mixing CP with any liquid medication that contains a solubilizing agent - like Prazipro. The resulting interaction can (but doesn't always) lead to a bacterial bloom. "

 

[Reefahholic]

The following is a quote from Humblefish on R2R;

"Over the years I have successfully mixed CP with the following meds in powder form: praziquantel, metronidazole, nitrofurazone, kanamycin, erythromycin. I've never tried mixing it with Epsom salt, but I don't see that being issue. You just want to avoid mixing CP with any liquid medication that contains a solubilizing agent - like Prazipro. The resulting interaction can (but doesn't always) lead to a bacterial bloom. "

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