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Snagged a few of our discounted ICP Analysis kits and sending one off at the same time with a Triton.

I’ll be curious to see the comparison and start using these more affordable kits! d888e210041dc48354609efea842c057.jpg


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Say they come back different. What information outside of word of mouth reputation do you have to validate one or the other? Which do you trust?
 
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Say they come back different. What information outside of word of mouth reputation do you have to validate one or the other? Which do you trust?

I guess it will depend on what parameter reads at a different amount from the other test. Plus, if it’s one that I own a home test kit for I can just retest and compare the two ICP results.

To have used one company with consistent results through a years worth of testing (and no imminent changes in my dosing measures), it would be odd to have a sharply skewed result from another brand.

Again, if the results are within reason from one another, I’ll definitely switch.
 

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I guess it will depend on what parameter reads at a different amount from the other test. Plus, if it’s one that I own a home test kit for I can just retest and compare the two ICP results.

To have used one company with consistent results through a years worth of testing (and no imminent changes in my dosing measures), it would be odd to have a sharply skewed result from another brand.

Again, if the results are within reason from one another, I’ll definitely switch.
I hear you. Just curious of how you would validate one versus the other.
 

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I've always preferred ATI, it tests for more elements than both the cheap icp and the more expensive Triton. From what I understand Triton is slightly more accurate in a couple of the elements but the difference is negligible depending on what and why you are testing for. I've tried a few of these and always have less than a 1% difference in most elements but that could just be luck. I mainly use ATI because it tells you fluoride, which I dose in my sps tank, Triton doesn't.
 

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I've always preferred ATI, it tests for more elements than both the cheap icp and the more expensive Triton. From what I understand Triton is slightly more accurate in a couple of the elements but the difference is negligible depending on what and why you are testing for. I've tried a few of these and always have less than a 1% difference in most elements but that could just be luck. I mainly use ATI because it tells you fluoride, which I dose in my sps tank, Triton doesn't.
Floride? I guess it kinda makes sense since it helps with calcification... just watch out for your fish. 1621364585674.png
 

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I've always preferred ATI, it tests for more elements than both the cheap icp and the more expensive Triton. From what I understand Triton is slightly more accurate in a couple of the elements but the difference is negligible depending on what and why you are testing for. I've tried a few of these and always have less than a 1% difference in most elements but that could just be luck. I mainly use ATI because it tells you fluoride, which I dose in my sps tank, Triton doesn't.
I just drop a little Colgate in my tank periodically and have never had an issue corals living too long. Works like a charm!
 

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I just drop a little Colgate in my tank periodically and have never had an issue corals living too long. Works like a charm!
Lol wish it was that easy. It's actually about color. Flouride brings out greens and yellows by helping the corals grow "cleaner" by expelling excess zooxanthellae during calcification and producing new proteins. Not the best pics but here is about a two week difference of some of my Walt Disney colonies after starting to add fluoride. This tank had almost no fluoride and now has natural seawater levels and yellow is really starting to come out and there was almost no other changes in those two weeks. Should help with blues as well but I've seen no indication of it doing that in this tank. WaltDlowcolor.jpg IMG_0523.JPG
 
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Say they come back different. What information outside of word of mouth reputation do you have to validate one or the other? Which do you trust?

Cody is this enough of a difference to not use this cheap ICP test and continue with Triton??? Is this a joke?

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Cody is this enough of a difference to not use this cheap ICP test and continue with Triton??? Is this a joke?

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Geez. Are you sure you put water in the vial? Haha just kidding! Did you reach out to them? More than likely, that was an operations or data entry issue as opposed to testing quality.
 

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Cody is this enough of a difference to not use this cheap ICP test and continue with Triton??? Is this a joke?

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It kinda looks like they got someone else's RODI sample mixed up with your sample. I've had nothing but good success with them. Hopefully they can get this sorted out for you.
 
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Meanwhile someone else is questioning the quality of their RO system.

No joke! A TDS meter must not be cutting it for someone.

I tried calling, but no luck getting any response yet.


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Here's the final update......

I got a hold of ICP-Analysis and they mentioned their system screwed up and tested my water as "fresh water". They did however still had my original sample and retested everything. Overall there were only (3) elements (Iron, Sulphur, and Iodine) that had a slight deviation from the Triton test which I sent off at the same time. Nothing ground breaking, but just caught my eye when doing side by side comparison.

While on the phone with ICP-Analysis, he mentioned a few things. Almost all the testing companies on the market use the same system/device, but ICP-Analysis is about to release a new update that will be able to test Parts Per Trillion (PPT) versus the common Parts Per Million (PPM). He did not mention exact pricing on this more precise test, but should be around the $40 price point.

Overall, I'm pleased with this testing as I did receive my "original" results back almost 5 days before the Triton test. If you're in a bind or need to figure out what the "F" is going on quick, this would be a better route. I do like the more detail breakout from Triton and dosing recommendations, but hopefully ICP-Analysis can update their system one day.

+1 for MARSH getting us the hookup on these test! Oh and did I mention I got some MARSH swag in my box when I ordered my test kits?!?
 
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