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Ah completely understand that failure of evaporative chillers in our climate.

I was looking at the heat pump style that is more of a huge chiller for the pool. A crazy waste of energy but almost a necessity in the dead of summer to keep the pool from feeling like bath water.

Any-who, sorry all for jacking the tread.


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They show this but its impossible... You cannot feed pressurized water into the chiller and then have it "drain" through a heaters heat exchanger. That is nonsense. Water would pour out of the reservoir at the bottom of the chiller.

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I don't even think flipping the heater and cooler would work. the Water Return To Pool would have to be a larger diameter with little obstruction other wise water would just overflow the cooler reservoir.
 
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Just a few degrees below ambient is great. Ideal for us would be 87-90°. Much warmer especially 93° in July/August feels unpleasant.


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They show this but its impossible... You cannot feed pressurized water into the chiller and then have it "drain" through a heaters heat exchanger. That is nonsense. Water would pour out of the reservoir at the bottom of the chiller.

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“Pumped” back into the pool. Seems like the only way this would work is to either have a secondary return pump to pull water from the basin an pump through the heater or elevate the swamp cooler high enough that gravity would allow the basin water to freely drain back to the pool via a separate return. Seems like a decent idea for dry climates but man I wouldn’t want to use one where water prices are high.


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What temp everyone’s tank at during Hurricane Ike outage? I would assume room temp will go up to 80s. Not sure how efficient to keep some ice cube bags in sump can cool down 260gal of water.
 

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This new law allows owners to install emergency generators. The association may impose limits and restrictions on generators but may not prohibit them outright. The new law allows HOAs to impose location requirements, screening requirements, and other similar requirements.


at least for me... I'm not so worried about the genny itself.. They are all over my subdivision. I was more concerned about the 100g propane tanks if I go that route.
 

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oh man where do I start....

its open - by that I mean water comes into it from pool pressure side of the return pump and water is pulled out of it by suction side of the pump at the bottom is a reservoir where all of this happens, its open. There is an internal pump that sprays water on the plastic fins inside the unit that the fan pulls air across to cool through evaporation. During July/Aug/Sept. I could only get it to pull the temp down a couple of degrees (may have been more if I could leave it on 24x hours but couldn't - see below).

I was ALWAYS having to adjust the input valve and drain valve to keep it from overfilling and spilling out or sucking air.

its evaporative - doesn't work very well when humidity is 90%+

They make heat pumps that both heat and cool. That is probably the way to go but going to take some $$ to run.
I forget who makes it, but there are heat pump systems that can hook to your A.C. water heater, and pool. Would cost $$$ to cool your pool with it, but if you use a lot of hot water you could make some of it up by pumping that heat into your hot water tank. Only really makes sense if your water heater and A.C. are not in great shape though. If they are in good shape, that is a lot to spend replacing stuff that does not need it.
 

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I forget who makes it, but there are heat pump systems that can hook to your A.C. water heater, and pool. Would cost $$$ to cool your pool with it, but if you use a lot of hot water you could make some of it up by pumping that heat into your hot water tank. Only really makes sense if your water heater and A.C. are not in great shape though. If they are in good shape, that is a lot to spend replacing stuff that does not need it.

yeah that is what I was mentioning above. I'm just pulling mine. My heater is busted and we didn't use it anyway.



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at least for me... I'm not so worried about the genny itself.. They are all over my subdivision. I was more concerned about the 100g propane tanks if I go that route.
yeah that might be an issue, any bigger than that your probably gonna need a permit as well. Cant you just hide it in your backyard and build a box around it? make it part of the landscape with plants or vines growing on or around it? your likely not to need to access it again for many years.... did a hole? 🕳️
 

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There was a 10kw Generac listed on FB marketplace earlier today for $4700. Not sure if that is a good price, but sounds decent.
 

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There was a 10kw Generac listed on FB marketplace earlier today for $4700. Not sure if that is a good price, but sounds decent.

Pretty high for just the gen or reasonable with shotty installation. 10kw is a good sized gen for emergency only circuits excluding your AC. The average sized ac seems to be 4 ton which needs 16kw by itself.


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yeah that might be an issue, any bigger than that your probably gonna need a permit as well. Cant you just hide it in your backyard and build a box around it? make it part of the landscape with plants or vines growing on or around it? your likely not to need to access it again for many years.... did a hole? 🕳️
It’s in my backyard. I’m not to worried about it.
 

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I have a 24kw Kohler generator with the add on remote Oncue and 3 exteral outlets added. Generator + transfer switch was ~$5k. Install (gas and electrical wiring) was $6k. My installation was a little high because the electrical lines are charged by the foot. My electrical pole is in my neighbor' yard which therefore increased my price.

Random info:
The system runs off a Yahmaha motorcycle engine so parts are easily replaced. My warranty is 5 years. Transfer switch turns the system on after 5 seconds of power loss. Filter, sparkplug, and oil change is easy. I use Royal Purple, but there is a Kohler kit for $60.

I hope this helps.
 
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