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It can be done here. I think it’s mostly a cost thing. If you have a $30-50k budget that gets eaten up pretty quick on just the basics.


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No heater or chiller saves a few dollars, not running anything other than a pump has to save some electricity even with an upgraded pump? idk how much it is to set up geothermal but cost ban definitely be a deterrent lol.
 

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Ya but what about the rainy season. Would all than rain just screw everything up. Then there is the heating and cooling. Good luck
 
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Sounds fun and I thought about it when I had a pool, but I would think the cost of maintaining, temp control, algae control in Houston (unless it's indoors), you'd make out better with a dive trip every year, also get a nice TS downpour and your salt will go out of whack. I'd have to charge admission to have people see it.


Not necessarily. Years ago I used to be a store manager for Leslie's Pools and a large number of customers had salt pools. In most cases after a good 3-4" of rain most people would only have to add a bag of salt to a 18K gallon pool (average size B.Y. pool) to bring it back up into range. Now this of course is at a concentration far below sea water, but dilution would not necessarily be as severe as one might expect. My parent's pool only needed two bags after Harvey and they got 9.5" of rain. PH and ALK stability would be of greater concern from rain. When it rains, the water tends to be acidic so it will pull the PH and ALK down. In a salt pool this is not an issue as these typically run high because of the creation of sodium hydroxide (PH of 11) as part of the system creating chlorine via electrolysis. But in a Reef Pool you would need to add a reef safe buffering agent to prevent the rain from pulling the PH and Alk down. Plus the salt bill would get rather pricey unless you went with food grade pool salt and setup a reactor for the ca and mg. Then there's the other trace elements needed that would not be in the pool salt.

To really pull this sort of thing off in our area, you would really want to have a transparent awning like glass over the pool to block the rain that can be closed off for temperature and humidity control for the 10 months of the year it's 90 degrees outside.
 

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Not necessarily. Years ago I used to be a store manager for Leslie's Pools and a large number of customers had salt pools. In most cases after a good 3-4" of rain most people would only have to add a bag of salt to a 18K gallon pool (average size B.Y. pool) to bring it back up into range. Now this of course is at a concentration far below sea water, but dilution would not necessarily be as severe as one might expect. My parent's pool only needed two bags after Harvey and they got 9.5" of rain. PH and ALK stability would be of greater concern from rain. When it rains, the water tends to be acidic so it will pull the PH and ALK down. In a salt pool this is not an issue as these typically run high because of the creation of sodium hydroxide (PH of 11) as part of the system creating chlorine via electrolysis. But in a Reef Pool you would need to add a reef safe buffering agent to prevent the rain from pulling the PH and Alk down.

To really pull this sort of thing off in our area, you would really want to have a transparent awning like glass over the pool to block the rain that can be closed off for temperature and humidity control for the 10 months of the year it's 90 degrees outside.


Yes, I owned a saltwater pool for 10 years. Correct, PH and ALK were important element to keep track of. A lower PH is always needed to allow a salt chlorinator to produce the chlorine. Rain actually made the PH go higher and I would have to control it by adding my acid and testing the buffer. While saltwater pool and reef pool isn't the same, design is key, I had a lot of run-off from my roof and all the leaching from rock, as a result, I had to add four bags, stabilize, and a larger dose of acid over a longer period to bring my pool up to par. Again design is key. I also had levels of water falls, so that collection from that area added to the dilution. In the years I had to pool, a concept of building an outdoor reef was something that I looked into, unfortunately, doable and fun, but funding would be an issue for me. Wanted it to be a hobby, not a job.
 

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The two happiest days a pool owner will have are the day they buy the pool, and the day they sell it. The rest of the time it's a hole in the back yard where they walk out to it, pull out their wallet throw money into it and go back inside.

I agree 100%
 

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It is not only the salt it is everything else out of wack...ph nitrates you name and constant. There is a big difference between a coral reef and a salt water pool. But then on the other hand I would never attempt it. The air on Sarnia and Houston and area is not the cleanest. Petro chemical. A lot of that crap ends up in our rain ..coral reef swimming pool as well.
 

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The two happiest days a pool owner will have are the day they buy the pool, and the day they sell it. The rest of the time it's a hole in the back yard where they walk out to it, pull out their wallet throw money into it and go back inside.

This is the BIGGEST MYTH about owning a pool - I completely disagree with you my friend.

Come over one day to see the hole in my backyard. Sitting in the backyard watching the pool/water fall and watching the kiddos swimming is the best part of my day. I guess it's a preference thing.

It's way way cheaper to run a pool than a small reef tank I can promise you that.

Salt water pool in the Texas heat is tough - some type of pool cover is a must.
 
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geothermal.. no chiller no heater... it can't be that expensive. 10g of addded cost? but drop 2-3g from the heater and gas to run it. If you add a chiller, +2-3g and cost to run it. it has to be getting close.
 
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lol my general applicable knowledge is probably the same as some guy who drives an uber saying "keeping a reef tank can't be that hard or expensive"

i mean... i am a walking encyclopedia of useless knowledge.. try me haha
 

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Really I think the heaters are worthless once the water gets in the 80’s.

I tried to bring 78° water up 10° when we had Thanksgiving here. Ran it 2 days 24 hours straight only got up to 84° .

If I had it to again I would drop the heater.


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