• Welcome back Guest!

    MARSH is a private reefing group. Comments and suggestions are encouraged, but please keep them positive and constructive. Negative threads, posts, or attacks will be removed from view and reviewed by the staff. Continually disruptive, argumentative, or flagrant rule breakers may be suspended or banned.

Sick Gem Tang. What should I do? (1 Viewer)

Users who are viewing this thread

OP
OP
GotFrogs

GotFrogs

Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2004
Messages
1,065
Reaction score
107
Location
Dickinson
Unfortunately I am outside of the 14 day warranted by about 2 days. I submitted a claim so hopefully they make me right.

What should I do with my quarantine tank? There is a single hermit crab in there and nothing else. I most certainly don’t want to transfer velvet into my display tank.
a3c81a9e113b49e4a4fbc70ffbe67718.jpg
 
OP
OP
GotFrogs

GotFrogs

Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2004
Messages
1,065
Reaction score
107
Location
Dickinson
Live Aquaria issued me a full refund via a credit. This is good but also means I have to order from them again. What should I do with my quarantine tank to prep for another fish?
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
2,068
Location
League City
Live Aquaria issued me a full refund via a credit. This is good but also means I have to order from them again. What should I do with my quarantine tank to prep for another fish?

How big is it?

You can let it be fallow for 6 weeks for Velvet or break it down and sterilize it.

I would be ICH, but I'm pretty sure it's Velvet after looking closer at the pics.

I wouldn't take a chance. Drain it. Leave it dry for 2-3 days. Then you can set it up again.

I never leave mine up. I put one up when needed because with my tank transfers and water changes it eliminates any ammonia build up.
 
OP
OP
GotFrogs

GotFrogs

Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2004
Messages
1,065
Reaction score
107
Location
Dickinson
My QT tank is 29 gallons. I just broke it down and am running fresh water with bleach in it. There was red legged hermit crab in the tank. What should I do with it? I am scared that he may have a fish desease on him that could contaminate my other tanks? He is just sitting in a cup of tank water right now.
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
2,068
Location
League City
My QT tank is 29 gallons. I just broke it down and am running fresh water with bleach in it. There was red legged hermit crab in the tank. What should I do with it? I am scared that he may have a fish desease on him that could contaminate my other tanks? He is just sitting in a cup of tank water right now.

Are you close to the beach or Kemah? ;) That one snail is highly capable of brining in ICH and who knowns what else. My current system has been up 8mo and 7 days and it's 100% clean. Feels great.

Yeah...best to break that QT down IMO. That prevents anything from surviving until the next new arrival. Pick up some Copper Power and the Copper Hanna Checker. Great combination together. No guess work and you'll have another tool in your toolbox. Just get a small bottle of Copper Power. That way you don't have a bottle of expired medication.
 

TX_Punisher

Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 12, 2013
Messages
664
Reaction score
513
Location
South Houston
So, how long did you have it and what did LA say?

Sick fish come from everywhere. It a single retailer is immune from that. Unknowingly or knowingly. I think it’s happened to all of us. I would have called them ASAP.

good luck.
 
OP
OP
GotFrogs

GotFrogs

Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2004
Messages
1,065
Reaction score
107
Location
Dickinson
Check it’s gill, put some iodine and see if there’s black dots


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The fish passed away a few days ago. Live Aquaria credited me for the purchase. I am going to wait a few weeks and try and order another one assuming they are still on sale.
 

Alex77619

Guest
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
138
Reaction score
92
The fish passed away a few days ago. Live Aquaria credited me for the purchase. I am going to wait a few weeks and try and order another one assuming they are still on sale.

Sry for that. But that iodine was a way to identify if it’s velvet.

And try next time directly go in to copper can give them the best guard against ick and velvet.

And just curious if I miss anything, U said u got a hermit in the qt which means the qt tank never had copper? Or how did the hermit still alive.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
OP
OP
GotFrogs

GotFrogs

Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2004
Messages
1,065
Reaction score
107
Location
Dickinson
Sry for that. But that iodine was a way to identify if it’s velvet.

And try next time directly go in to copper can give them the best guard against ick and velvet.

And just curious if I miss anything, U said u got a hermit in the qt which means the qt tank never had copper? Or how did the hermit still alive.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sorry, I did not folow your original post about checking for velvet. I was thinking you were talking about while it is alive. I still have the fish in the freezer. Is it too late to put iodine on it?

Correct about the copper, it was never added to the tank. I usually only treat with PraziPro for flukes and chloroquine Phosphate for ick but only when needed. I was listening to Kevin from LA on a Neptune System Podcast and he recomended against treating fish prophylactically
 

Alex77619

Guest
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
138
Reaction score
92
Yes u still can. Velvet never leave host even fish die. Defrost him and put some diluted medical iodine or any form of iodine. Velvet will become visible black dot on gills.

I always treats fish for cooper in every qt. Especially fish from online wholesale. They been with too much fish during the transfer and have high possibility of velvet ich.

This pb I had for 17 month is from liveaqua too. I treat directly in copper.
714248773844ff75a985e4a72c20a54b.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
2,068
Location
League City
The fish passed away a few days ago. Live Aquaria credited me for the purchase. I am going to wait a few weeks and try and order another one assuming they are still on sale.

Get a tank ready with Copper Power. But only dose it to about 1.0. Then bring it up slowly. Put an air stone in there too. FW dip before he goes in. I want this one to thrive. :)
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
2,068
Location
League City
Yes u still can. Velvet never leave host even fish die. Defrost him and put some diluted medical iodine or any form of iodine. Velvet will become visible black dot on gills.

I always treats fish for cooper in every qt. Especially fish from online wholesale. They been with too much fish during the transfer and have high possibility of velvet ich.

This pb I had for 17 month is from liveaqua too. I treat directly in copper.
714248773844ff75a985e4a72c20a54b.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not every fish can tolerate Copper. Gotta be careful with some of them.
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
2,068
Location
League City
Sry for that. But that iodine was a way to identify if it’s velvet.

And try next time directly go in to copper can give them the best guard against ick and velvet.

And just curious if I miss anything, U said u got a hermit in the qt which means the qt tank never had copper? Or how did the hermit still alive.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Never heard of this. Can you link the information from where you found this?
 

Alex77619

Guest
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
138
Reaction score
92
Never heard of this. Can you link the information from where you found this?

Identification of Amyloodinium is attained through a skin slime smear (or gill section if the fish is dead) with a spatula or glass slide, cover glass. Dinospores can be seen at 150 times magnification locomoting in wavy, bee-line tumbling motion. They are bell-shaped, have a mid-line constriction, about ten microns in length. Vegetative forms are about 60 microns, slightly oblong, dark colored, containing large starch granules that stain easily with iodine.
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
2,068
Location
League City

Identification of Amyloodinium is attained through a skin slime smear (or gill section if the fish is dead) with a spatula or glass slide, cover glass. Dinospores can be seen at 150 times magnification locomoting in wavy, bee-line tumbling motion. They are bell-shaped, have a mid-line constriction, about ten microns in length. Vegetative forms are about 60 microns, slightly oblong, dark colored, containing large starch granules that stain easily with iodine.

Yeah, but you need a microscope bro.
 
Top