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Im new to MARSH and new to saltwater in general. Just a few questions. Buying cured live rock and saltwater from a LFS, would i still need to wait for a cycle? How would ya rate how well the LFS stores in houston cure their rocks?
 
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curing is just a matter of letting whats going to die, die. So time is the factor. if a LFS has a fresh shipment of LR, it's not going to be very cured. I personally like the uncured rock, you get my life and diversity.

yes, even cured LR will cause you tank to cycle, just not as much as uncured.
 
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I agree. Even when you buy "cured" live rock from either the local stores or wherever, there will always be some die off when you introduce it to your tank (especially if your tank is newly set up).

Given that the live rock is already "cured" your cycle should be anywhere from a few days to a week or two, rather than the normally expected 6 weeks.

Keep monitoring your levels (ammonia, nitrites and nitrates) and you should soon be able to add livestock to your system. :D

Jim
 
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you could also buy the uncured rock and place it in some plastic bins at home with a powerhead and skimmer running. If you would like some of the light loving critters to not die off, you also put a light over it to give some light until it is ready to put in the tank. If you let the live rock cure outside your main display, you can observe the critters that stowed away on it and make sure there isn't anything hiding that you ultimately don't want in your main display, like mantis shrimp. Once the rock has cured and stop with the die-offs, then you can put it in your main display. It is really all a matter of preference. Either way there will be some die-off, and there will be a cycle to go through. Also, if you want to know if the rock you are getting from the store is pretty much done with it's curing process, smell it. If it smells yucky, then I wouldn't put it in your main display yet. If it smells like ocean, then it is ready.
 
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mrlimpet said:
Isis, I never pictured you to be a rock sniffer :D 8O :lol:
Yeah...I am guilty. I got funny looks from my mom when I was trying to school her in the ways of rock selection.
 
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So if i wish to add more live rock to my tank, it wouldnt be safe to add it right after i bought it from the LFS? Even if it smells oceanie? Anyone with instant messenger and want to teach me some stuff? hehe
 

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you can reach me on IM just look at my post and there is a spot somewhere that says aol or msn or something. If you dont' have any fish or other livestock in the tank add all your liverock and it will eventually cycle and with a water change be fine. If you have livestock already cycle the liverock in a different container or you will end up with another cycle and kill some or all of your critters.

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Unfortunately, I probably made the saltwater beginners mistake. Not knowing anything, i pretty much bought everything and threw it all in within a couple of days. Was doin research on RC to try to save my tank and tcarlson directed me to this site for help. So here i am, tryin to seek help and not get chewed out here like i did in the RX forums.
 
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I have bought cured live rock penty of times that didn't cycle. I would suggest getting a trash can or a rubbermaid container put your new LR in it and cover it with SW wait a couple of days and check the water. If it is good add it to the tank if it is bad wait a few more days. It really is not safe to add it straight to the tank.

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imsuperjp is one of those people that walked into a LFS and walked out with bad advice, LR, and a full complement of fish. Fortunately the store he got it from was not a MARSH sponsor.
 
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I am usually available on Yahoo IM and MSN IM at night.. I would be glad to chat with you... Just don't get discouraged and give up. This is a learning experience for all aquarists of all levels. Don't stop asking questions, and make sure you do so before making any more purchases. In this hobby, one wrong purchase can kill your whole tank if you don't do your proper research. We all here have made REALLY bad mistakes, but we learn from them and that is all that matters.
 
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spent the past couple of days, late night and early morning, reading all the post on this site and many on RC, and still lost as ever. going to start hitting the books. nothing wrong with the posts here but alot are experienced technical stuff. i still dont know waht coraline algae looks like or how bad algae looks like. well anyways, went to the global and took the advice of sergio by adding more sand to my tank bc my pH was low and now my tank looks like milk. after it all settles, i ll look into askin ya the next step to take.

http://www.geocities.com/aniceguy4life/tank.jpg

pix of my tank before the added sand, hopefully with the help of MARSH ppl, it ll be beautiful in the next couple of months.

PS. Can i join MARSH w/o going to the meetings at first?? im very shy.

EDIT: well i dont know why the link not working but if u copy and paste it, it does
 
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imsuperjp said:
PS. Can i join MARSH w/o going to the meetings at first?? im very shy.
yes you can via the pay pal button.... but don't worry, we won't bite...we let our fishies, or clams, do that.
 
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That looks like a colt coral in the picture.
Be carefule if it is.
I love colt corals, but I believe they can be brutal to other corals (chemical wise I mean).
I had a huge one, and a lot of my corals started looking really bad, couple died.
Then I moved the colt coral, it didn't like being moved, started dying, eventually I had to pull it out.... Then, all the other corals recovered and are now looking better than ever.
 

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actually, you'll find out that marshers are one of the most friendly people out there. I've yet to see many trolls stay, nor do many flaming wars last too long here. feel free to IM me if you need any help. I wouldn't call myself any what of a professional compared to most people here, but I'll do what I can.
 
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