black ocellaris (1 Viewer)

[ebayes11]

does anyone in town have some? i'm coming to htown this weekend and would like to pick some up. i know that village was gonna get some for tcarlson, but i don't know if they have come in yet. does anyone else around time have any? thanks guys.

eric

 

[KarenB]

Was at Village this evening. They did not have any black ocellaris, but they had one black saddleback, one orange saddleback with a funky eyeball, a bazillian orange ocellaris, tomato clowns and maybe a skunk or two. Check Planet Fish. Saw some there last weekend.

 

[Guest]

Planet Fish got the last batch of Black Ocellaris they may stil have some. I am waiting on Village to get them in because Scott is really good about telling you if some of them are dropping dead and will put a hold on sick fish. (A person seeing them all day long has a better idea on the behavior and health of the fish than me spending 10 minutes looking them over.)

I hate to drop $40+ and have to bust my ********* to save the life of tank raised clowns which are supposed to be easy and disease free.

Tom

Karen that saddle back has a disease called Pop-Eye pretty nasty huh?

 

[KarenB]

Tom,

Yeah, that saddleback looked pretty sad. I heard that if only one eye is affected, that more than likely it is a result of trauma, and if it is both eyes, then it's the disease. I dunno.......

I did get an anthias from Village that, after I got it home, I realized it had a bad eye. I took it back, and Scott gave me a credit towards another anthias or the dollar value for something else. He thought it was trauma induced, but knew I'd feel better if he took it back. I thought that was really cool of him to do.

 

[KarenHorn]

We were at Planet Fish today and they had 2 pair of jet black ocellaris that they wanted $80 for and some singles. The singles didn't look as nice as the pairs.

 

[Guest]

Were the pairs full grown or two little clowns hanging out together?

 

[HolyBanana]

We were at Planet Fish today and they had 2 pair of jet black ocellaris that they wanted $80 for and some singles. The singles didn't look as nice as the pairs.

Damn Bastages!
I called them today to avoid a long trip and they told me they didnt have any. :|
I'll wait until village gets some then. If they cannot tell what a black clown looks like maybe I should not go there.

 

[KarenHorn]

They appeared to be mostly grown, but I don't know how big the ocellaris get. The females were completely black and white and the males' mouths were a bit yellowish or orangish. You'll have to forgive the color blind person, lol.

 

[Guest]

Who did you talk to? Cuz I saw em today...

 

[kris4647]

I saw them Tom. There is a size diff, the female had a completely black face and the male still a little orange. I didnt watch them long enough to see any pair behavior [Dont like to look to long because then I'd have to buy them ] but they were hanging around together. FYI they were $80, which if they are tankies is pretty steep.

 

[Guest]

They have to be Tank Raised even ORA and people willing to fly to Australia can't get WC pairs.
I should start buying Black Ocellaris keeping two of them together for 3 months then reselling them as a pair for $80.

 

[Guest]

So I got ripped off

What 'should' be the right price then?

Havent seen blk occies anywhere else in town so Ive got nothing to compare to...

 

[Guest]

Interesting thread here...

New on this board. Apparently Are they really jet black or just dark versions of ocellaris? Seems to a few people on this BB that forty bucks is a lot for these guys. Having never seen them for sale before about whats the going rate for these guys?

 

[Guest]

Some will have a bit of orange around there lips kind of a sloppy lipstick "Woman of the Night" look. There are the same species as orange Ocellaris just a different color variant. Black Ocellaris are all tank raised so anything above $25 is too much in my opinion. You don't see them as often because, everyone wants "Nemo" who incedently is not black, they cost more but you can't charge too much more than orange Ocellaris, there are only two large suppliers in the world one in Florida and another in England. Its extremely hard to find wild caught pairs of these so almost every Black Ocellaris decended from one or two pairs. So Black Ocellaris are actually more inbred than most of the population of Mississippi as hard as that is to believe. Some Clown nuts avoid them because most of them have genetic deffects like an over bite or incomplete bars from all the breeding between siblings. They are also one of the damn hardest clowns to breed. Orange Ocellaris are arguably the easiest marine fish to breed they'll even lay a nest in a QT tank, but black Ocellaris just don't seem to lay. ORA has some secret for the Black Ocellaris that they are not sharing. I think they are injecting them with hormones because when I pour Champagne in my tank and put on Barry White it doesn't get my clowns any closer to breeding. I plan on giving a Orange Ocellaris a Black girlfriend in the hopes that they will breed more readily as has been the documented case. A mixed pair of Black x Orange usually throws a 50 / 50 split of Black and Orange fry.

Need to know anything else feel free to ask. I get paid to answer posts when I am at work.

 

[Guest]

Black Ocellaris are all tank raised so anything above $25 is too much in my opinion.

After reviewing prices from 3 different websites, if you think $25 is too high you have gotta be (and not wanting to call anyone names but seems Ive no choice) a cheap *********. And to think they actually do go for $45 w/o the sale on marine depot. Just becasue they're tank raised doesnt mean they should cost any less.

Black & White Percula (Tank Raised)
Amphiprion ocellaris

Regular: $45.00
Sale: $30.00, 3 for $86.00

Plus you gotta remember its a store, just because you think something should cost X doesnt mean it will. If it did this would be an ideal world. Stores have rent, employees to pay and a multitude of other bills to be able to sell you fish. A source told me ORA Blk oellaris go for $12.00 cost before shipping. If going with the industry standard of 300%, to charge $40 would not be unreasonable to me. Just my .02 cents.

Black Ocellaris just don't seem to lay. ORA has some secret for the Black Ocellaris that they are not sharing. I think they are injecting them with hormones because when I pour Champagne in my tank and put on Barry White it doesn't get my clowns any closer to breeding.

Alright you sound almost contradictory here. If Blk ocellaris are hard ot breed, naturally the price will be higher. Just because they're tank raised doesnt mean they should be sold for no more then a standard ocellaris. If a breeder has to put more effort into breeding a hard to breed fish of course stores will be charged more which filters down to the consumers. Knowning this, you should be thankful that you're even able to get them at all!

They cost more but you can't charge too much more than orange Ocellaris.

Again, naturally if they cost more for stores, it'll cost more for consumers. If you think a markup of $13 to satisfy your opinion of $25 was done, how do you think stores will make their money? If one died, a store would have to sell two to make up for the losses and thats cutting into profits. And why couldnt they be sold for more then an orange ocellaris? True they are the same species but dogs are all the same species but some varieties sell for tons more then a standard mutt would ever command.

I think this clarifies my point.

 

[HolyBanana]

Are you suggesting my orange clowns are mutts?
How dare you? :-x

 

[Guest]

Are you suggesting my orange clowns are mutts?
How dare you? :-x

I dont know where you get that im suggesting your ocellaris are mutts but whatever. You are missing my point. Just because there are different varieies within a species doesnt mean they should be selling for the same price. Thats like saying a jack russel should be the same price as a rottweiler just because they're both the same species.

 

[HolyBanana]

No, I got your point.
I was messing with you.
Appearently you missed mine. hehe

 

[Guest]

Doh!

 

[Guest]

After reviewing prices from 3 different websites, if you think $25 is too high you have gotta be (and not wanting to call anyone names but seems Ive no choice) a cheap ***.

Just because that is the price online doesn't mean they are selling them at that price in fact most times it says out of stock. The going price for Black Ocellaris in a Houston LFS has been less than $25 for the last 16 months.

Just becasue they're tank raised doesnt mean they should cost any less.

Just a breeder's perspective WC fish are worth a lot more to us because you are getting a fresh blood line.

Plus you gotta remember its a store, just because you think something should cost X doesnt mean it will. If it did this would be an ideal world. Stores have rent, employees to pay and a multitude of other bills to be able to sell you fish. A source told me ORA Blk oellaris go for $12.00 cost before shipping. If going with the industry standard of 300%, to charge $40 would not be unreasonable to me. Just my .02 cents.

I understand overhead thats why I'll wait till I can buy them at a store with less overhead or the Blk Ocellaris are being sold at less of a mark up.

Alright you sound almost contradictory here. If Blk ocellaris are hard ot breed, naturally the price will be higher. Just because they're tank raised doesnt mean they should be sold for no more then a standard ocellaris. If a breeder has to put more effort into breeding a hard to breed fish of course stores will be charged more which filters down to the consumers. Knowning this, you should be thankful that you're even able to get them at all!

Hard to breed for me but ORA knows the trick and is able to supply plenty to the public.

Again, naturally if they cost more for stores, it'll cost more for consumers. If you think a markup of $13 to satisfy your opinion of $25 was done, how do you think stores will make their money? If one died, a store would have to sell two to make up for the losses and thats cutting into profits. And why couldnt they be sold for more then an orange ocellaris? True they are the same species but dogs are all the same species but some varieties sell for tons more then a standard mutt would ever command.

Most stores only have a 200% mark up on fish so I think my price is justified.

I really don't understand the purpose of your post. You started by calling me a cheap ********* and then proceeded with this anger laced post. Do you work for Planet Fish. Why do you feel as if you need to go on and on about their pricing practices? I won't spend more than $25 for a Blk Ocellaris plain in simple I have seen them at that price or less in Houston and that is what I think the fish is worth. My opinion is different than yours at $80 for a pair I would buy a different species of clowns.