The key to the vinegar is really keeping up with it. I usually do Vinegar and when I'm on top of it, a hour soak is more than enough. When I forget about it (or it's the return pump which is harder to get out) I end up taking much longer.
Never knew about the HEB stuff, going to hit up a HEB this weekend and clean them all!
Never knew about the HEB stuff, going to hit up a HEB this weekend and clean them all!