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Ich Treatment Urgency? QT issues + other questions (1 Viewer)

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Ich Treatment Urgency?

My new flame angel has Ich. Only three spots yesterday, but today he's horribly coated. He's not in my QT unfortunately.

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How urgent is it that I remove him and treat him? I'm a little worried because I have to leave on Friday for a full day to pickup my new tank and don't want to leave a copper treatment unattended.

Since this is in my display, should I go ahead and treat all my fish in the QT? I have a bicolor blenny and a maroon clown. Would copper hurt any of these animals?

What kind of filtration should I buy for the QT? I have a twenty long with NO lighting, nothing more.

What brand of copper and what kind of test kit should I buy?
 

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I was able to sucessfully treat a moderate ICH outbreak in my reef tank using the following (yes, if he's in your show tank, you will HAVE to erradicate it in the show tank, so why bother catching him....):

Garliced food. Get some minced garlic, soak food in RO/DI water + garlic overnight in fridge. Feed liberally

Kick-Ick. Aquatic Center stocks it in quantities, or you can buy it on-line. Everything I had survived.

For your new QT, I used a whisper 300 on my 20 high QT (picked up at PetSmart for about $30). I did NOT use anything else. You bioload won't be high in the QT, and if you fill it "fresh" each time (I cleaned mine out with vinegar and let it dry empty between stock purchases) you should be fine for the 2 - 3 weeks stay. Otherwise, get a cheapo airstone skimmer, if it makes you feel better.
 
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I've been doing the garlic since yesterday afternoon, but I just stopped due to some of my corals starting to react poorly. I'm prepping a water change now.

As soon as the ich falls off the fish I think i'm going to treat all three fish with copper in the QT and do the wait six weeks thing...
 
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I'll back kick Ich. Very good product and safe for coral & inverts. Just watch your parameters. I'm always cautious when adding chemicals to any tank especially my show tank. Can't be to safe. :wink:
 
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I'm going to give Kick Ich a try instead of QT'ing with copper.

Anyone else ever tried this product?
 
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DeviousRhesus how big of a tank you got? I used 10 oz out of the bottle I have. My 29 gal only need 2 oz per application day. (it takes 15 days, but you don't pour it in all 15 days).

Global and AC have it that I know of.

If you live on the SE Houston side, I could make a deal with what I have left, which could treat my tank about 2 more times.

Nathan
 
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Narkon said:
DeviousRhesus how big of a tank you got? I used 10 oz out of the bottle I have. My 29 gal only need 2 oz per application day. (it takes 15 days, but you don't pour it in all 15 days).

Global and AC have it that I know of.

If you live on the SE Houston side, I could make a deal with what I have left, which could treat my tank about 2 more times.

Nathan

I live in Galveston, so that would actually save me allot of driving! I have the same size tank as you do, so it'll work out perfectly! What do you want for it?

Also, did it work pretty well for you? Damage any inverts?
 
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No damage to anything that I could tell, I didn't lose any snails or shrimps or other inverts.

My corals didn't react either.

We can work out the other on the phone or pm.

Nathan
 
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QT wouldn't be a bad idea if you can catch your fish. I would treat them all at the same time until gone. Temember once you treat the fish the parasite will still be there until it goes through it various stages of life and can no longer find a host.
 
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Kick Ich was very effective at removing $20 from my wallet. That was all it accomplished. Snake oil.

I would take all 3 fish out and treat in a QT for 6 weeks, but I would use hyposalinity instead of copper.
 

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I've only had 2 bad outbreaks of ich. (Although I can't seem to get my purple tang totally clear of it) Both times I've used kick ich, and it seemed to work for me. I didn't notice any problems with the corals or the inverts at all. I did follow the directions very closely.
 
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The cleaner shrimp got to the flame yesterday and now 99.9% of the ich spots appear to be gone. I'm just gonna play it by ear over the next few days. If I can get away with it i'd like to keep from QT'ing them all until my new tank is cycling.
 

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David I would Keep feeding garlic. Mince it up & mix with food. Not too much just enough where the fish are getting food soaked with it. You can run carbon if you are afraid of too much garlic in the water & its effects on corals, although I have never seen any effects of it in my tank.

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We once added a powder blue tang that looked perfectly fine, was getting fat and looked very healthy, but then came down with ich, anyway.....darn ich magnet. At first we tried the garlic thing, and then when that didn't work we ended up doing three rounds with the Kick-Ich. The ich finally went away, after we lost the powder blue along with five other fish. The fish that remained alive either were cured or they built up an immunity to the ich. We haven't had a problem since. We were lucky. Good luck!
 
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