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Hey guys, I was thinking of a DIY chiller for my nano tank, but not that I would really need it, just thinking out loud.

Anyone tried the following or have a suggestion? Would this even work?

Parts:
$34. Lux Win100 Heating & Cooling Programmable Outlet Thermostat -- http://www.amazon.com/Lux-Heating-C...Y8/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1334080584&sr=8-12

$29.99 0.14 Cu Ft Mini Refrigerator -- http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/299106/014-Cu-Ft-Mini-Refrigerator-Assorted/

$15.57 dosing pump "Aqua Lifter AW 20 vacuum pump" -- http://www.petblvd.com/cgi-bin/pb/TOE01137.html

$2. plastic tubing

$5. wall wart for the mini "DC" fridge to run on AC.

2-3 Emptied 1 liter soda bottles (whatever will fit in the mini fridge).

Total: $90. (less than $100.)

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Run the dosing pump to pull in tank water in a large "loop" that pumps out the same tank water. Within the loop, coil up the tubing in the soda bottles filled with water. If possible daisy chain it with another bottle. Drill an entrance and exit hole into the fridge, put the bottles in the fridge, and plug the power in the programmable thermostat.


Potential Problems / Details:

1. Can the mini fridge cool enough to provide any value to the tank?

2. Can you have a temperature probe for the programmable thermostat, or can you find a model that uses a probe instead of the room temperature?

3. Do you need to use some kind of filter to prevent the intake from getting clogged? Maybe draw the water in from a filtered area such as a sump or skimmer.


One neat thing that I was thinking is sometimes Office Depot gives those mini fridges for fee if you buy x amount of office supplies. I know that admin at my last workplace got one to play with a while back for ordering $300 worth of paper (that the office needed anyway). Also, I believe you can use an arduino nano built with a temperature probe and a power relay for around $25-35.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Improvements?

-KyleH
 

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I know experiments have been done with coiled tubing inside a fridge. I think I remember it working but not very efficient.
 

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Plastic tubing isn't very efficient for transferring heat. Also, no agitation or water movement in your exchanger will pose a problem when the water in the exchanger starts to heat up. You need something to maximize surface area contact like a bubble box or something along those lines. Just a thought. Sorry, not many solutions. I'll keep thinking.
 

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What the size/dems on the mini fridge?
I saw also a while back that on a online reef site that some had a ice-maker under his tank and it dump frozen ro/di cubes as a ATO in his sump and on the same time it cooled his tank. There are many ways to reinvent something but a chiller is still the coolest..........(did I say coolest)........way to go.
 

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Ok, if you do this let me know because I want to see this.
1. Scrap the fridge, get a mini freezer
2. need a circ. pump and small resevoir
3. Water/ethylene glycol mixture of about 45-50% EG in the resevoir(costs less than 100% EG)
4. Circulate the EG/H20 through the freezer with tubing coiled in ice for maximum SA contact.
5. Tubing leaves freezer through your exchanger that has saltwater in it and back to resevoir.
And faster than you can say, "Hey, I just made a closed loop system and it works.", BAM you have very salty, very cold water.
But in that time you have also murdered a perfectly good mini freezer. Some may say this is excessive. I say it's necessary. DO IT!
I'm sure you know this but ethylene glycol is commonly referred to as anti freeze. We just call it EG at work.
If anyone could add to this, it would be great. This has gotten my creative juices flowing.

You could always put beer in it
 
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Thanks guys for the suggestions.

I was thinking of getting a small solution if I ever wanted to bring a nano to work. My workplace turns off A/C on nights and weekends, so a fan / heatsink would not work because the surrounding air would be warm.

Since, this would be on a thermostat timer, I am afraid that the freezer idea would cause saltwater to freeze when it is not moving (ie, when it has already reached it's desired temperature). However, I guess we can put the freezer on the timer with the pumps and it would thaw out when not being used.
 

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