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Some people have seen my LED lights that I have over my 34 gallon hex. I used many individual heatsinks that are each a bit of overkill. i may redo them once again, and this time use more leds on fewer heatsinks. Here is my current plan...

I am going to try a few different routes. All heat sinks will be ones from old PCs. (that is the eco part.) Most have been salvaged from PCs that I owned, or a couple that I wahoo'd from the curb while walking my dog. They are nice heat sinks that already have fans mounted to them. They are generally aluminum, but I do have a monster one that is copper. All fans will be run at much less than 12v so that they are dead silent.

The LEDs that I am currently using have been from nanotuners, but I am currently also trying out a place called ledgroupbuy.com that I found. It looks to be cheaper and nanotuners can be really slow to deliver. I bought indivual blue and white LEDs from both places, although I also bought some really high power ones from the ledgroupbuy place. (each one can draw up to 3 amps) I plan to build a few different units, to try out some versions. So, I will be using ultraviolet, white, blue, and more powerful whites.

The power supplies in the past had all been meanwell brand power supplies. They are quite easy to work with. Nanotuners quit carrying the more powerful versions, so I used a company suggested by ledgroupbuy to order a couple different meanwell power supplies.

I will also be trying to power some of them with ordinary left over wall worts.
this will be the cheapest route and might allow someone to build an led spotlight (to get that shimmer that t-5's dont provide) with a surplus heatsink and fan, and a left over wall wort, so pretty much just the price of the LEDs and perhaps a powersupply. This means a single spotlight with five 3 watt leds might cost (5x$5) + $20 for power supply.

I might put together a group buy for leds and power supplies (to cut shipping) once I get it put together and tested. The only other items required might be some thermal stickers (nanotuners only) that are $.39 ea.

I'll post after I get the stuff in and put something together.

Happy New Year,
Richard
 

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thanks for the write up Richard. I've personally had really good luck with www.ledsupply.com as well. Shipping was very fast.


Even though you could power the leds with just a wall wort. A driver should be added. The leds are current based units, so it would be preferable to get a current limiting device to help protect the leds. A meanwell powersupply/driver isn't much more than the price of the wall wort. I would generally spend the 5 bucks more and get it.

5 leds x 3.3-3.8fV = 16.5-19V , kinda hard to get a power supply like that. Unless you find an oddball laptop PS.
 
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I wasn't planning on buying any wallworts, I have a pile of around 20 or so various ones. I'll have to provide some kind of dummy load so that I can measure their actual outputs.
 

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perhaps you can consider making your own driver, DustinB linked the files for a very low cost dimmable driver. The Cat4101 driver chip can be had for under $2.

IMO the problem with wall warts is finding a power supply able to push out enough current. Most of them are around 500mA. If you plan to run the string at 1A, I would suggest finding one capable of 2A output or more. This will keep the power supply from prematurely burning out.

Sorry if I seem critical, just trying to help. Keep us posted on the build.
 

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If anyone has any doubts I have seen this setup in person. The setup itself isnt as fancy as the store-boughts, then again they never are, but his results are undeniable. A truly beautiful tank and the coloration is awe inspiring for those thinking about switching to LEDs
 
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No offense taken for sure. I am not planning on running more than a couple off wall worts, if I can sort them out. I guess that I posted 5 of them off a wallwort in my first post above, but I agree, its not worth the risk. I am also considering building some landscape lighting with them, so I am exploring other routes of powering them besides meanwells.

For the XM-L's, they can apparently be driven at 3 amps ! I'll probably run 5 or 6 of them off a single meanwell ELN-60-27. 3 -27volts, rated current of 2.3 amps. Here are the specs on the high power led:

CREE XM-L COOL WHITE STAR MOUNTED
Some info on the LED:
Maximum drive current: 3000 mA
Low thermal resistance: 2.5°C/W
Viewing angle: 125°
Available in cool white
3000mA (2 times XP-G!!!)
CCT Range 5,000K-8,300K
260lm flux @ 700ma! minimum!
Version: XMLAWT-00-0000-0000T505
SPEC: http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLampXM-L.pdf

Depending on how my wallwort selcection pans out, I may or may not be able to run some from them.
 

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soymilk said:
perhaps you can consider making your own driver, DustinB linked the files for a very low cost dimmable driver. The Cat4101 driver chip can be had for under $2.

IMO the problem with wall warts is finding a power supply able to push out enough current. Most of them are around 500mA. If you plan to run the string at 1A, I would suggest finding one capable of 2A output or more. This will keep the power supply from prematurely burning out.

Sorry if I seem critical, just trying to help. Keep us posted on the build.

Hey soy do you know which thread he linked them in?
 

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i was lucky, i was part of a group buy and we got the meanwells for about 27 a piece before shipping.

But 34 is a great everyday low price. Considering these things used to go for 60 a piece.... this is a steal.
 

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Yeah what I want to find out is if the DWZM drivers work better at low dimming levels - I "think" the Meanwell D driver does not work below 15% and the P is more like 40% if I remember correctly. I have three of the the Meanwell D's right now and have the pots to dim them.
 

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Steve, this is the first I've heard of the meanwell drivers acting weird at low levels dimming. I wish I still had some crees and a meanwell to mess around with.

Is this something you experienced personally or from the web. As long as there was more than 7 crees it should have been ok.
 
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SteveB, are you the one who was trying to run the nanotuner UVs ?

I ordered 6 of them, IIRC. I was going to run them in pairs (parallel) to run them at 350 ma. I found this driver on wattsupply.com and ordered it. See what you think. I plan on clumping the 6 leds on one PC CPU heatsink and powering them with this one driver and having it controlled by the wall switch next to my aquarium. That way, its NOT timered, but controlled only by me when I want to see it. The driver is an LPC-20-350, its a 20 watt power supply that runs at 350 ma. I am hoping there is a pot that I can use to turn down the output to 320 ma or so, since 350 was the upper limit, IIRC.
 

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yep its me. I looked it up 500mA is the upper limit for the 420nm LED.

I wish I would have found the driver you bought :-( I ordered the Advance XItanium 12W 350mA. You will be able to string a few more LED's on the Meanwell.

I didn't see anything on the data sheet indicating you can reduce the output....The Advance driver doesn't have current adjustment either.

I am also going to play around w/one of the Meanwell ELN-48-60D's I have and see if I can reduce the max output current using the internal pot and the dimming circuit to get it down to around 400mA. I'm also looking at the dimmable LED driver thread over on RC.

from nanotuners.com
Wavelength – 420nm +/- 5nm
Spectral Half Width – 12nm
Optical Output Power – 350-400mW
Max Current – 500mA
Typical Forward voltage (@500mA) – 3.8v
Viewing Angle – 120 degrees
Max LED Junction Temperature – 125C
The LEDs are mounted to a stanard 20mm MCPCB, and is compatible with our pre-cut thermal adhesive pads.

CAUTION -- These LEDs are not intended to be run any higher than 500mA. Failure to comply will result in drastically shorter life for the LED, and we will not uphold any kind of replacement warranty as a result.
 
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