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A very sad day - found the Moorish idol dead this afternoon. He looked great yesterday, so no idea what happened. He did appear a lot thinner when dead than he did when he was alive, but he ate well, and I would think if he starved, there would be some period of time when he was weak, not go from acting healthy to dead overnight.
 

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I wonder what caused that. Any ideas?
 
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I wonder what caused that. Any ideas?
Not really. When a fish dies in that tank, I always wonder if it got stung by the anemones, but the BTAs don't really have that much of a sting, and I couldn't see any signs of wounds. I never saw anyone harass him, even when I first put him in, which is rare with that extra-large maroon clown. This species has a reputation of being very difficult, but since he had been in aquarium life for a year, I thought it would go better than it did.
 

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Gotcha. Well, that sucks. I wonder sometimes if I would like to hear corals and fish talk. Yes, they could tell you what's wrong. Also, they would probably never shut up haha
 
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I'd say "long-tentacled plate coral" is an appropriate name for this critter. It's about as big as a dessert plate now - maybe in a few years I will take the same picture with a dinner plate.

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I'd say "long-tentacled plate coral" is an appropriate name for this critter. It's about as big as a dessert plate now - maybe in a few years I will take the same picture with a dinner plate.

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Cool! How long have you had it?
 
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Cool! How long have you had it?
I got it last August. It's hard to say just how much it has grown since then, because some days it looks bigger than others, but it never used to be this big. I should have measured the skeleton when I got it.
 
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After all the issues I've had the last couple years with corals, it's nice to have a happy, fast-growing SPS again (besides the elkhorn Montipora). I got this JF pink flamingo bird's nest in November.

November 25, shortly after I got it.
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As the Turbinaria keeps growing, it is pushing the gorgonian to the side, but I hesitate to move the gorgonian because it has done so well in that spot.
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A piece of the gorg broke off, and it has attached itself to the Turbinaria, and now they are growing as one coral.
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A new milestone in my reefing journey - the first time a coral has grown to the top of the water.

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It seems to flatten out at the water's surface, so I don't know if it will actually grow out of the water at all or stop there.

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Too bad it's an elkhorn Montipora. If it were a Homewrecker Acro at this size, it could be my retirement income plan.

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The latest addition. I have seen splatter hammer corals and anemones, but this is the first splatter bubble coral I have seen. It came as two separate corals attached to the same tile, but one seems to be dominant, and I will probably separate them at some point.

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What kind of lights are you rocking these days?
 

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The bird's nest continues to grow well, but it's a victim of its own success - the bottom part is dead, I assume due to being shaded by the top part.

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When I was diving the reefs in Cozumel a few months ago, there's one particular reef called the Palancar Reef that is know for it's massive, gorgeous structures. You're maybe 60-80 feet down and you see these divine structures everywhere, and I had a realization. Say you have a 30ft tall structure with corals on top. It's all part of the coral. All 30ft of it, and then there's just a little bit of coral on top. It's kind of like a wildfire sweeping across the land. The only live part is that very frontier where the active fire is burning, yet you can see miles and miles behind the line of where it's been, and they're all the same.

The revelation I had was that death is a massive part of the survival strategy of corals. It's frustrating for us as reef tank hobbiest because we want these massive colonies in our tanks, and never want to kill anything, but it is what it is. The coral dies and redirects energy to where it is needed, which is that bleeding edge of growth. Essentially, success in growing them mandates you will kill most of it, because that's how they survive.

The insight wasn't anything that would help you grow corals better, but rather just a better understanding of corals and how they behave in their natural environments. I had a similar realization after seeing tangs in the wild. The debate between say a 4ft tank not being big enough for a tang but a 6ft tank is good is insane. These things swim miles every day on a massive reef. Even a 10ft tank is not enough for them. While some fish would be just fine in a tank, fish like tangs will never thrive, but rather, simply survive. Any argument about properly caring for a tang correctly should always be considered within the context that if you actually cared about the health of the fish then you'd never put it in an aquarium to begin with. Having said that, they're fish. We eat them for dinner, use them for bait to catch other fish to then eat that fish, etc. Fish don't die of old age on the reef, and everything eventually becomes food, so there's that to consider as well.
 
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When I was diving the reefs in Cozumel a few months ago, there's one particular reef called the Palancar Reef that is know for it's massive, gorgeous structures. You're maybe 60-80 feet down and you see these divine structures everywhere, and I had a realization. Say you have a 30ft tall structure with corals on top. It's all part of the coral. All 30ft of it, and then there's just a little bit of coral on top. It's kind of like a wildfire sweeping across the land. The only live part is that very frontier where the active fire is burning, yet you can see miles and miles behind the line of where it's been, and they're all the same.

The revelation I had was that death is a massive part of the survival strategy of corals. It's frustrating for us as reef tank hobbiest because we want these massive colonies in our tanks, and never want to kill anything, but it is what it is. The coral dies and redirects energy to where it is needed, which is that bleeding edge of growth. Essentially, success in growing them mandates you will kill most of it, because that's how they survive.

The insight wasn't anything that would help you grow corals better, but rather just a better understanding of corals and how they behave in their natural environments. I had a similar realization after seeing tangs in the wild. The debate between say a 4ft tank not being big enough for a tang but a 6ft tank is good is insane. These things swim miles every day on a massive reef. Even a 10ft tank is not enough for them. While some fish would be just fine in a tank, fish like tangs will never thrive, but rather, simply survive. Any argument about properly caring for a tang correctly should always be considered within the context that if you actually cared about the health of the fish then you'd never put it in an aquarium to begin with. Having said that, they're fish. We eat them for dinner, use them for bait to catch other fish to then eat that fish, etc. Fish don't die of old age on the reef, and everything eventually becomes food, so there's that to consider as well.
All excellent points.

I'm not overly worried about the bird's nest, although I am curious how big the top can get before the base can't support it anymore. It will be a bummer if it collapses, but I know that's part of the natural cycle as well.

Although I have had my blue tang for a few months shy of 10 years, I don't think it has grown at all in that time, despite being in a "big" tank.
 

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All excellent points.

I'm not overly worried about the bird's nest, although I am curious how big the top can get before the base can't support it anymore. It will be a bummer if it collapses, but I know that's part of the natural cycle as well.

Although I have had my blue tang for a few months shy of 10 years, I don't think it has grown at all in that time, despite being in a "big" tank.
Oh for sure. Here's a shining star example:

LiveAquaria has the max size of an Atlantic Blue Tang at 9"

Fish-pedia has their max size as 40cm, our almost 16"

I saw schools of them in the 12+ range. Their growth is just stunted in our tanks.
 
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