Our new babies (1 Viewer)

[KarenHorn]

Meet Dentrobates leucomelas #1 and #2!

#1

#2

#2

Aren't they cute?!? By the way they don't eat the fruit (banana). That is only to attract the fruit flies that they do eat.

 

[NANAReef]

Very nice. My wife and I have discussed getting a dart frog or 2, just wondering where you got em.

Nathan Andrews

 

[KarenHorn]

I actually got them from a beardie breeder in SW Houston. She had thought she might start breeding dart frogs and then decided she didn't want to jack with fruit fly cultures. She has enough to deal with all her beardies.

They are supposed to be a pair. I haven't heard the male call yet, but I have hopes!

There is a Reptile Breeders show on the 18th and I know Cindy Dickens from Vivarium Concepts will be there. We plan on getting more frogs from her and I can testify to her excellent customer service.

Her website is: http://www.vivariumconcepts.com/

If I ordered frogs online I'd go with Patrick Nabors at www.saurian.net

If you just want to learn more I'd go to www.dendroboard.com

 

[Guest]

Really cool and interesting. Another addition to the Karens Menagerie. The blue ones on the website are neat. Do they cross-breed? Does yellow and blue really make a green one?

Which one of you is a "closet" science teacher? I kinda like living in a pseudo-biology lab--- as long as nothing gets disected.

Congrats!!!!

 

[KarenHorn]

Okay, you said the evil word....HYBRID! That's a serious NO NO in the hobby.

I think we both are to some extent, lol. Though I'd have to say Karen B started it with the clownfish. She got me into wanting the frogs. They are mine and I plan on trying to breed them and raise the tadpoles.

I have to admit I find raising the flies and everything very interesting.

 

[landfish]

They look just like the ones I used to have. The call is awesome and it very pleasant. Once they feel comfortable they will start calling. I can second that Cindy Dickens from Vivarium Concepts it great. I got my frogs from her and she is a wonderful person to so business with. Congratulations

 

[incysor]

Very cool. After seeing one of the paludariums at ADG, I was thinking of creating one with poison dart frogs included, but I haven't had the time to research any of it yet.

B

 

[KarenHorn]

Of course I'll only get calling if I have at least one male, but I'm crossing my fingers.

Leucs weren't my first choice for frogs, but they have a couple of advantages. 1) you can keep them in groups 2) they do have a nice call and are relatively forgiving as far as care goes.

Incysor, If you do decide to ever get some darts I'll get you started on the fly culture and probably could do some springtails as well.

 

[incysor]

Thanks for the offer Karen. If we end up doing it I'll take you up on it.

B

 

[justin-branam]

so for you reptile nuts. i have had a few snakes in the past and a savannah monitor (got to 3.5 feet!), but never frogs. my question is, could i use a MH light for these guys? right now i have a 20g high tank and have a 70w MH inside the canopy that fits the tank. could i use this for some darts? i know they dont really need the light but would it hurt them to have it? im sure the plants would love the light and it would keep the tank nice and warm to help keep the humidity level up.

 

[KarenHorn]

In a word....probably not. The MH would make it way too hot for them. They like the humidity, but don't like getting over 80 degrees in the tank. 100% humidity is fine, but I think you'll find that with the glass enclosure, glass top the MH will make it too warm.

 

[AggieBrandon]

I agree with Karen....I think it would get too hot. You really need a way to make a nice basking spot but still leave an area that is cooler. Works better for the animal to thermoregulate. I would still test it to see how hot it gets. You never know it may work great

B

 

[KarenHorn]

Actually poison dart frogs do not bask at all. They spend their time in the foilage and leaf litter. Also, like a fish they can dry out (hence the need for all the humidity) and relatively lower temps.

 

[AggieBrandon]

Cool deal...I have never kept the poison dart frogs...Mainly snakes and lizards. Karen, are you feeding any pinhead crickets or strictly fruit flies? If so where are you getting them blah blah etc. I am debating on getting one going sometime in the future and am digging around for information on food supply etc. Since I live out in the boonies.

B

 

[KarenHorn]

I'm strictly doing the fruit flies and springtails and it's not hard at all to make a culture and keep them going as long as you are dilligent about making them. It takes me about 10 minutes once every 10 days to make a new culture. Springtails are even easier but can't be used as a staple

You can use pinheads, but I don't like to and a lot of other froggers don't like to because they have a nasty habit of escaping and growing into big crickets.

You can also feed things like rice flower beetles and field sweepings. Flies can be ordered online to be delivered once a month if you don't want to culture your own.

PS..........if you want the actual websites for ordering let me know and I'll give you several links.

 

[AggieBrandon]

I'll take any information you can provide...KarenB should have my email still if not here it is aggiebrandon@aggiebrandon.com Thanks in advance.

B

 

[KarenHorn]

Now that I've tortured you Brandon with 3 zillion links feel free to let me know if you need anything else, lol

 

[AggieBrandon]

haha you forget that I work nights and have lots of time on my hands at work ( I can multitask ) I'm going to check out all the links tonite and do some reading. What do you think about growing orchids inside a vivarium?

B

 

[KarenHorn]

Actually most dart keepers have at least one orchid and a bunch of bromeliads. Some of them have quite the fancy plant set up. Since I tend to kill anything green I'm trying to keep to simple stuff like pothos. We do have some bromeliads, but only because the thumbnail frogs lay their eggs in them.

Pretty much any plant that can fit and likes it warm and humid is good in there. You don't have to worry about the frogs. There's no chance they'll eat or bite or lick the plants.