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I looked at every store in Huntsville and could fing nothing named Picking Lime -- Ball or otherwise. The closes I found was Ball Pickle Crisp -- it claims to be 100% Calcium Chloride. Can I use this --- Any idea about how much it will take to raise a 29G w/ 10G sump by about .1 ?? Thanks
 
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I'm not positive, but i think the pickling lime is calcium hydroxide, aka kalkwasser. What you found is calcium chloride, aka TurboCal.
 
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thanks, so looks like I'm making a trip South to get calcium hydroxide :-(
 

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THIS is what you want. Food grade calcium hydroxide with no additives or preservatives.

Most of the grocery chains have discontinued selling Mrs. Wages to pick up Balls for some reason.

I now order it online. I'm about to place another order in a few weeks for another 6 containers.

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It apprears that Huntsville grocers dont carry Mrs Wages or Balls. So to save myself a trip to Houston what is the best product to pick up at the local LFS to raise my PH from 8 to 8.2?
 
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any basic additive is going to raise your ph.Make sure your kh is high....around 12dkh. whether you drip kalk or buffer your ph is going to climb.
 

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Are you checking your PH with the lights on or off? How long have they been on or off when you check? IMO I wouldnt worry about a 8.0 vs 8.2 if alk and calcium are balanced with it.
 
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Shane V. wrote: Are you checking your PH with the lights on or off? How long have they been on or off when you check? IMO I wouldnt worry about a 8.0 vs 8.2 if alk and calcium are balanced with it.

Actually Shane, You should try to keep your ph from never falling below 8.2.If you can keep your ph at 8.4.....calcium and carbon transport through the corals lapets occur faster it seems at this level and overall growth is rampant.

Did you know that the oceans ph has dropped significantly in the last 1000 years.Apparantly what is happening is that the ocean is a carbon sink and is holding more of the worlds free carbon dioxide which is suppressing the ph which is slowing coral growth.When the reefs were at their best the ph was higher.

So if we want to save the reefs we must grow more Co2 affixing animals and plants and shift the dynamics of the atmospheres partial Co2 pressure :wink:

And that is what Reef Savers is working on
 
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Eric, have you ever read the article on iron fertilization of the ocean?? It talks about throwing scrap iron into the ocean as a fertilizer for phytoplankton to increase primary productivity and theoretically lowering atmospheric CO2.
 
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Yes i have.I dont think it is the best way though.It is not the natural way i should say and there is no proof that the iron does not effect the habitat.Growing more coral and planting more trees will give you the same effect.Remember, that 25% of the reefs are dead and another thirty% are in decline or dying.So what this means is that the ocean is not working at full capacity at affixing carbon.Zooxanthellate corals absorb co2 because the symbionts need more than the animal can produce which is why your ph climbs during the day.At night the animals respire Co2 but there has been a deduction in the carbon cycle because a portion of Co2 has been used to form calcium carbonate.So by planting more coral and increasing habitat you will have a net gain on the Co2 in the atmosphere.Have you ever read of people pulling out shipwrecks because it is poisoning the enviroment?
 
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We are careful not to put metal in our tanks, so I guess it only makes sense. The experiment of placing iron in the water was clasified a failure, the drop in CO2 was minimal to non-existant compared to the amount and cost of the iron. Has anyone read michael crichton latest book? He claims to have evidence that supports there IS NO global warming and we are all being duped.
 
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I dont think global warming is as bad as alot make it out to be, but the reefs have been jacked up by anthropogenic factors( I have seen this evidence in person) and there are reefs that have recently gone extinct due to bleaching supposibly from global warming.I think the situation is multifacetad in which the slight elevation in temperture is only part of the equation of what is wrong.Things are just off balance.If we fix what we have destroyed we should return to center.My opinion on the planet getting warmer is we are coming off of an ice age.But the rapid deteriation of the reefs are from us doing reckless and irresponsible things most of the time and poor people doing things that allow their survival like sugar cane farming. All we need is balance.If you are too far to either side you will topple.....this theory applies to many parts of our lives. :)
 
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I did not intend to make light of the distruction of the reefs, I agree it is a serious problem, but I believe that run-off is a much more serious problem for them than warming. They just can not compete in a nutrient rich soup. And of course this all has to happen just as we are starting to appreciate the possible medical miracles that might exist in sponges and other reef and deep sea critters. Maybe a possible cure for cancer will prompt people to care more about reefs that most of them will NEVER see.
 
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