Tank planning-65 gallon sps build (1 Viewer)

[NarnyTheGreat]

Sorry, what is STN?

Also where can you get Prodibio locally?

 

[flexrac]

STN= Slow Tissue Necrosis
RTN= Rapid Tissue Necrosis

 

[NarnyTheGreat]

Gotcha, thank you.

Maybe I will just stick to macros and softies lol. Time will see, but I dont think I have it in me to be that anal about my tank lol.

 

[flexrac]

lps are beautiful too. you can work on a acan reef mixed with dendro's, hammers, torch, etc. and have a beautiful tank.
Lobo
acan
favia
chalice
caps
light sps like birdsnest
maybe a millie or two
micromusa
beautiful plate corals
mushrooms
if you search hard, you can find some really nice colorful lps and softies.

 

[flexrac]

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/CatDisplay.cfm?c=2733+8

 

[Ostentum]

Also check the $10 section at Mr Coral.com he has some really cool acans that I am thinking of picking up myself. My tank is SPS dominated but I have been adding alot more LPS lately, chalices mainly but I am going to be picking up some more acans.

 

[flexrac]

I have been promoting that site for like 2 years and still have not made an order. But trust me, he will gets lots from me when the new build is done. I have been trying to get local vendors to do it like him, but i don't think they are interested or cant figure out how he is making a profit.
There loss! Its so easy to see he makes money in volume.

 

[Ostentum]

LOL, guess what Felix, I was actually talking about setting up something locally like Mr Coral does. His $10 frags honestly are not that big but they are healthy. Once the new system is up and going I am going to have a fairly large frag system and was planning on doing $10 and $20 frags of the non high end stuff. Its not a hard concept to understand when a wild colony and maricultured colonies are around 35 a piece wholesale and they chop them up into 10 pieces, mount them let them heal then sell them for $10 bucks a piece. Gotta realize also that alot of local vendors dont have the time, patience or means of keeping SPS alive. The goal in the next year is to have everything up and running and my online website going to.

 

[Tangs]

Now my tank is low cost and low maintence. I never do any tests and stuff/fish lasts for years. I only do a 5 gallon water change once a month or so when I do a top up. I don't like to see the water line. I change carbon but no sump or protien skimmer. I never do any tests on the water just a salinity check when I do top up. I sell frags to ofset some of the costs. 125 coral reef.. brown and green zoos exena, pusating exena, lots of mushrooms, 2 crocea clams, yellow and blue tail tangs, lots of damsels, manderen and so on Jim

 

[oldmantran]

Now my tank is low cost and low maintence. I never do any tests and stuff/fish lasts for years. I only do a 5 gallon water change once a month or so when I do a top up. I don't like to see the water line. I change carbon but no sump or protien skimmer. I never do any tests on the water just a salinity check when I do top up. I sell frags to ofset some of the costs. 125 coral reef.. brown and green zoos exena, pusating exena, lots of mushrooms, 2 crocea clams, yellow and blue tail tangs, lots of damsels, manderen and so on Jim

Now YOU, sir, are my kind of hobbyist. I'm following the Tangs school of reef aquariums. haha.

5 gallons per month? That's a whole bucket!

And Felix. I'm really digging the aquastyle DIY LED set you linked to. I'm considering getting 2 sets to cover my 48" 75 gallon tank. Can you PM a pic of the output on that kit?

 

[Tangs]

ya the 5 gallon waterchange and top up is on average. I look at the condition of the tank water and algae growth and go from there. I never use more that a 5 gallon tub of instant ocean in a year. The tub usually lasts me 1.33 years I would say on average. If I run into probleems like a fish that eats a lot of food then I will do a larger water change like what happened last spring. I sold that fish at a 50% discount just to get rid of him. To an established hobbiest with a big marine tank. I change the floss and charcoal as well. I reuse my charcoal by burning off the debris in it by putting into my wood stove. In there it is hot enough to melt aluminum. Jim

 

[flexrac]

Now my tank is low cost and low maintence. I never do any tests and stuff/fish lasts for years. I only do a 5 gallon water change once a month or so when I do a top up. I don't like to see the water line. I change carbon but no sump or protien skimmer. I never do any tests on the water just a salinity check when I do top up. I sell frags to ofset some of the costs. 125 coral reef.. brown and green zoos exena, pusating exena, lots of mushrooms, 2 crocea clams, yellow and blue tail tangs, lots of damsels, manderen and so on Jim

Now YOU, sir, are my kind of hobbyist. I'm following the Tangs school of reef aquariums. haha.

5 gallons per month? That's a whole bucket!

And Felix. I'm really digging the aquastyle DIY LED set you linked to. I'm considering getting 2 sets to cover my 48" 75 gallon tank. Can you PM a pic of the output on that kit?

i can tell youthat you won't need more than the 72 led kit, and you will have to raise the a bit or dimm them. mine is running full power. and i am getting 200+ par at the bottom with no water in the tank. the leds are 30 inches from the bottom of my tank.

fishboy has a set of 72 over his 75, you should check out his.

 

[flexrac]

LOL, guess what Felix, I was actually talking about setting up something locally like Mr Coral does. His $10 frags honestly are not that big but they are healthy. Once the new system is up and going I am going to have a fairly large frag system and was planning on doing $10 and $20 frags of the non high end stuff. Its not a hard concept to understand when a wild colony and maricultured colonies are around 35 a piece wholesale and they chop them up into 10 pieces, mount them let them heal then sell them for $10 bucks a piece. Gotta realize also that alot of local vendors dont have the time, patience or means of keeping SPS alive. The goal in the next year is to have everything up and running and my online website going to.

that would be cool, i tried doing that, but the wife said; oh heck no!

 

[flexrac]

Sabrina, have you made any decisions yet?

 

[NarnyTheGreat]

Not yet. I think I'm gonna go ahead and buy things like GFO and 2 part so that I will have it on hand, but I think I am really gonna focus on the feeding station right now.

I got 2 of the 4 Rhomboid Wrasses yesterday :-D so setting up the feeder will def be useful!

I can mix oyster eggs with water (to dilute the amount of food dispensed at one time), keep it in a wine cooler and have it dispense a 1 ml solution about 3 or 4 times a day... that way I dont over feed and the fish will have a constant amount of food. Then as I add corals I can increase the amount feed. Of course I wont have any corals for a long time since I still havent gotten my 65 gallon from fishgallery .

I was thinking of getting a high end dry fish feeder as well to run in addition to the oyster eggs that way I can mix fish flakes that have multiple additives and the food wouldnt only be one kind.

 

[flexrac]

i don't think you have to feed those wrasse that much, anthias yes, wrasse maybe twice per day. did you hear something diff?

 

[NarnyTheGreat]

I read that they do better when fed multiple times a day. I dont know where the paper is that I read but the basic jist was that of the fish they dissected they determined that they ate a little bit every so often over the course of a 12 hour period. It also said that there digestive system is better suited for this kind of feeding rather than one or two larger feedings.

I will look for the paper now.

 

[flexrac]

Makes sense, they graze a lot.

 

[NarnyTheGreat]

I havent been able to locate the exact paper I read but have found many other writing ups about it. Here is just one of them that helps explain it a little bit.

http://www.reefland.com/forum/marin...18767-feeding-marine-fish-fish-nutrition.html

The feeding information is towards the middle

Feeding Frequency
Unless the fish is a strict predator (like a Lionfish), then you should know that the fish eats throughout the day. Most fishes are grazers or nibblers. Large Angelfishes are well known nibblers. Some have been measured to nibble 3 to 5 times every minute on the reef! Ideally they are fed small meals throughout the day just like they eat in the wild. Their digestive track has evolved for this kind of continuous and small intake of foods. Though inconvenient for those of us with full time jobs, the next choice would be three meals per day. In no case should fishes that graze or nibble should be fed less than twice a day. Try to find three times in the day you can feed the fish. Feeding frequency is mentioned in other sections below relating to the foods and types of fishes. Some ideas on how to feed fish throughout the day may be found here: How to Feed Your Fish Throughout the Day

How much to feed
An old question. Professionals measure the foods fed to the captive fishes. This isn't something an aquarist will likely do and sometimes can't, considering all the water that is included in frozen prepared products. If one could measure it, a generic quantity would be to feed about 5% of the adult fish's body weight every day. For sub-adults that would be about 7% and for juveniles more than 10%. Fry would require more. It depends on the fish, its grouping (carnivore, herbivore, or omnivore) and other fish attributes, however.
The aquarist needs to get a feel or an intuitive sensing of when to stop putting food into the aquarium. Usually the fish respond fanatically to the beginning of feeding time. This wares off as they become less pushy and excited about being fed. Some in a community may stop or pick at the food while others may still show interest. When this happens, slow down the amount being added since the entire community is no longer being fed. When those last fish begin to show less interest, the feed time is over. Depending upon the type of fish or the community mix, this could range from 3 minutes to 10 minutes.
My favorite rule is to not add food to the aquarium at such a rate as to have the food 'get by' the fish and become part of the waste. This works well in a community grouping of fishes.

 

[alexrex20]

Sabrina, have you made any decisions yet?