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[Diesel]

Just starting this thread as it can be beneficial to all who's thinking the next step in the right direction of the marine hobby.

Got my 6 month test vials in today with pre-paid envelopes for return to Triton.

 

[Diesel]

Will send in my first sample today to Triton and see what they come up with.
Stay tuned

 

[jhill9]

Where did you find a dealer to sell the test kit? You probably went direct didn't you?

 

[d2mini]

Where did you find a dealer to sell the test kit? You probably went direct didn't you?

Triton-US Call Us at (707) - Triton8

 

[Diesel]

Where did you find a dealer to sell the test kit? You probably went direct didn't you?

Not all is direct, most is.
This is for you too, no strings just a awesome system and as I said next step in reefing.

 

[Reefahholic]

Need to get Justin and the lady to send water samples in. I just had Justin pull some sand, water, and rock rubble.

 

[alwaysinshorts]

Just starting this thread as it can be beneficial to all who's thinking the next step in the right direction of the marine hobby.


So does this statement mean that if you don't adhere to the triton method you are wrong? Since your saying that the right direction.

 

[Diesel]

Just starting this thread as it can be beneficial to all who's thinking the next step in the right direction of the marine hobby.


So does this statement mean that if you don't adhere to the triton method you are wrong? Since your saying that the right direction.

Where can you read that if," you don't you're wrong"?
Not saying that at all, but any improvement in this hobby can be a step in the right direction, we all can agree on that but it's up to you if still want to do your own testing.
I for a fact watch daily my APEX on temp and PH, daily testing on ALK but the rest not so much, my corals will tell me in a early stage if something else is going on.
This hobby is so wide spread with a lot of possibilities to make your reef work but always stick with the basics, that worked for 40+ years and still does.
Triton is one of many ways to help you with this hobby but not necessary you have to go that route.
Just another topic that will or can help us in a positive way.





23 to go...........

 

[Diesel]

How long can you have a conversation about water testing??
Thanks to Scott Fellman I'm up to date on Triton and the new macro and trace element dosing that will be available sometimes next week.
It's always awesome to talk to Scott for an hour about one subject.










13 to go.........

 

[Diesel]

Triton 101 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1Jw91Z-cs

As we know the Elementz are available too Triton-Labs.

Just to clarify that you don't need to order the whole series of the Elementz, as you do regular testing with Triton it will tell you what you're missing in additives that you now as you hope add on by regular WC, two part, calcium reactor, Zeo, etc, etc.
The full triton method is just another way to maintain and enjoy this hobby.
WC will help a lot but every tank is missing something to enjoy the total reef.
We all had that one particular coral that don't do well in your reef.
I know it's mind blowing isn't it?
Questions that you see all over the forums why would Euphyllia's not work in my tank, they melt away slowly or finally I got my SPS to survive but have no PE and growth, my Riccordias are melting or for that matter ZOA's too.
That all can have to do with missing some important Elements in the water.
It might be wrong salt or over skimming maybe to much activated carbon or you have a source in your water that leaches metal in the water column, in most cases we just don't know.
Triton Test can help with this, now even more that the Elementz are available.
I'm not that far in yet with my complete testing on Triton, I did just two test as of now and have a third one in the mail this coming Monday.
By reading my three test results it will tell me my average that I need to dose maybe some boron or Iodine just saying.
Most people in this hobby rely on WC and in most cases that should be enough, it's proven for so many years.
But still that one particular hammer, monti, acro won't grow in my system.
Would it be nice to figure out why not but on the same time simplify your maintenance of your system.
Some people would say "it's all about money, more stuff is more money out of my pocket" true......... not going to argue on that but and yes there's always THAT but again.
Let me ask you this, no really how much money you already spend on just corals over the years you been in this hobby?
Would it be nice to know why these corals didn't do well and why I still have hairalgae but my PO4 tell me 0 or close to that.
For myself I still do ZEOvit and I'm happy with it and finally after 3 years into ZEO I understand the complete concept of it
Reading a lot about the hobbyist who start with ZEO they don't understand what it is doing and after e few moths with no success they drop out.
Same to the understanding of PH what it stands for and why we need a close eye on it in this hobby.
If you eat junk food for about 75% of the week and you feel tired don't blame your boss that he put to much work load on you, eat better and you can take on almost every task.
It's the same in our reef.
Being as close to NSW (but we will never be and a lot of systems are way off) will make this hobby only more fun.
You can spend thousands of $$$$$$ on awesome corals and yet the guy that spends $10 on a green slimer but his water is close to perfect with result in his green slimer will look a lot better that a RR, cornbred or JF coral of the same kind in water that is way off.
Take your time and try to understand why Testing is so important.
I have no stake in this from Triton to bring this to the market and some may ask why I'm doing this............. good question!!
My answer will be simple "why are you in this hobby for?"

 

[flipside]

I think that our good friend Diesel is just trying to pass on something pretty fantastic guys. But this is definitely something for the advanced aquarist (no doubt).

If you watch the video, it breaks it down for you. But, for those of us that have been doing this for a long time, haven't you ever wondered, "what the heck is all the other crap in that salt mix?" Triton is offering to tell you, and supplement you if you need it.

I have done the "Balling Method" before. It was outstanding as I didn't have to do water changes as frequently to keep my corals extremely healthy. Basically, with "balling" (created by Hans-Werner Balling), you dose Calcium Chloride, Sodium Carb, and the 3rd element is simply "everything in Sea Salt, but no Sodium Chloride." LOL! That always left me a bit confused as I know what trace elements I needed, but it always left the question of "how much do I need?"

It can get dicey in this hobby. You ever read through a thread that started off with a topic line similar to this: "HELP!!!!!! I THINK MY TANK IS CRASHING!!!!" or "WENT ON VACATION AND EVERYTHING IN MY TANK IS DEAD!!!!"

ugh... poor bastids...

This is why it is important. I've seen a lot of guys come and go due to reasons that could've been avoided "IF" a company like Triton was around a decade ago.

That's the point of this thread. It's informative. The product is innovative, and probably will come down in price (just as everything does in this hobby) after more people get on board.

Benefits of Triton testing (assuming LFS' get on board and start offering drop shipping of samples, result explanations, and "of course" the products you need for resolution) for the long time hobbyist:

1. No more test kits
2. No more water changes
3. No more heavy salt buckets to lug or pay an arm and a leg to ship (don't give me that free shipping caveat... you have to spend $175+ to free ship!)
4. Better understanding of our inhabitants

That being said, what's the benefit to the hobby?

1. More reefkeepers! Why? Scalabilty. One can manage what one can measure.
2. Less coral losses. This alone could give us a stronger presence in the world's eye. Who knows... maybe one day people will thank us for saving coral's lives? (One could dream, right?)

There's probably a slew more advantages to this, but these are the one's that stand out to me right now.

I think this is an excellent post, and props to Diesel for getting it out there. I had no idea about it and am pretty excited about it.

So, yeah... I guess I agree... What are you in this hobby for? To keep rolling dice because you "think" you know what you are doing with your corals, or to actually have a defined reason for everything that you put in your tanks? That's really the question, isn't it?

 

[Diesel]

Leo, I got some free corals for you......

No kidding.
All is said but do we really understand this hobby than eye balling the beauty we see on the WWW.
We all learn as we go and yes it can be sometimes a hard pill to swallow when you wake up and you got super snow white corals or all your fish are doing acrobatic tricks in your tank.
Knowing this isn't normal or maybe it is when you find out later that your boron was out of this world and could only keep aliens alive....... maybe.
Do the right thing before you jump in and read as much you can, don't do like some of us and drop a grand on a system and have a lot of questions like I top off my water with freshly mixed saltwater but my fish have a hard time to swim they keep on floating to the top, why has everybody a problem with keeping their PH at 8.2 as mine is at 11.2 and why is everybody talking about 8.2 and 450ppm not to mention a higher # of 1400??
Read and be happy, and if you think you're going slow, slow down even more.
Triton been around in Europe longer than here and now we got the possibility to even know more about our system small or large.
And YES the test vials are being send of to Germany (where triton originated from) to be tested.
Don't ask me why but I think it has to do with monopoly.

 

[flipside]

I appreciate that, Diesel. My grandmother is Dutch/Irish, and the way you discuss/open topics actually reminds me of the way she talks to me. (did I mention I'm her favorite? )

My grandfather is German. He's something else! My mother is Filipino, Chinese, Spanish,and I don't know much about her folks (in the Philippines).

My point?

I can read through everyone's posts and draw out the meaning(s) they are focusing on. This was through extensive "family" training.

Haha!

That being said, I will probably do this Triton thing. I don't see why not. I've already got thousands into something, and why skimp on insurance (my view, anyway).

 

[kgk]

This is the first I have heard of this.
So Triton is (1) water tests/analysis and (2) supplements to dose to make up for some issues they identify in part (1)?
Interesting.

 

[d2mini]

This is the first I have heard of this.
So Triton is (1) water tests/analysis and (2) supplements to dose to make up for some issues they identify in part (1)?
Interesting.

Yes, because many of the elements they test for are not otherwise commercially available.
Triton goes way beyond the typical Alk, Calc, Mag, Iron, etc.
And even if you don't care about all those minor elements nor want to pay for the supplements, it's still a good way to double check your own testing, all in one shot.

 

[jhill9]

I sent my water on Monday. Curious to see the results compared to the ones I take. For some reason I have a feeling it is going to be a big difference.

 

[Diesel]

Well , big news all across the marine reef board is again the BIG topic about Water changes (WC) or not?
We all believe in WC cause simple it works but why are we doing WC.............. not because it's fun and a few hundred ppl in the same hobby telling you to do so.
Main reason we do it to take out the waste and replace it with a few fresh mixed gallons of salt water............. right!
Ever thought about Trace elements and how much we really need in our systems?
What are trace elements exactly and what role do they play in our reef aquariums?
To put it simply, trace elements are elements that appear in very small quantities in salt water.
They are vital to all sorts of biological processes and due to the limited size of our aquariums can be depleted rapidly.
Trace elements can be replenished through regular water changes or with chemical additives, but before you run out and start dosing trace elements, it is important to realize just how scarce they are in our reef systems.
To kick off this discussion, let’s take a look at the composition of salt water.
Saltwater with a specific gravity of 1.025 is 96.5% water. “Sea salts” make up the remaining 3.5%.
That 3.5% salt is made up of major elements and trace elements.
The major elements are sodium, chloride, sulfate, magnesium, potassium, and calcium.
Those major elements comprise the vast majority of “sea salts.”
If you were to remove those major elements from the mix, what is left is a whopping 0.7%.
Those are our trace elements. In total, there are around 70 different trace elements and they all fit into that 0.7%.Their proportions may make one believe that trace elements are insignificant, but that could not be further from the truth.
These trace elements are vitally important to all sorts of biological processes that happen in our aquariums.
In fact, too little or too much of any of them could cause serious problems.
Some trace elements, such as copper, are highly toxic when present in non-trace quantities.
If you plan to add trace elements, make sure you are testing for them, especially considering the vanishingly small quantities they represent in our salt water.

This will explain it even further, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlB93PAD-jQ

And if you want to hear it from the Masters, Scott and Randy.
Rethinking water changes...again. Evaluating the Triton "method" objectively...