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Just tested it twice with a RS kit, sitting pretty @ 10ppm :( Performed a 20g WC three days prior yet it still rendered a number that's too elevated for my liking.

Currently running BRS GFo in a reactor with a cup of carbon in a mesh bag. It's still a standing $5 offer folks :)
 
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I know gfo won't just throwing it out there. The proverbial carbon dosing eh might have to go that route if need be. What about Seachem's Denitrate?
 

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Water changes, filter sock changes, detritus removal from tank and sump, feed less, better clean up crew, chaeto, better flow to keep detritus in the water column…. when do I get my $5?
 

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You have the age old issue of more bioload than your biological filtration can handle. Plain and simple. Fish, coral, and foods all create a bioload on your system. You need less of all 3 or more bacteria that can handle your bioload. Just remember, bacteria doesn't free float in the water. They like a place to cling too like sand and rock. More bacteria and places for it to live or less fish, coral, and foods(aka detritus). It's up to you. Anything else is a band aid to your situation. Good Luck.

How about $2.50 for each of us Dennis. Haha!
 

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Dude.....id give $500 if my nitrates were 10ppm. Im sitting waaaayyyy higher and my corals are happy and growing too fast for me. How are you corals looking?

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Corals are great if you like them browned out. Well at least they aren't croaking so I'm good on that front. I'm fixing to add a carbon source either sugar or vinegar hopefully that'll get the job done.


I'd like to think I have my husbandry all down packed. Every 2 days I siphon out detritus. Remove sock ever week though It could be more frequent.


What media are you using with the reactor?


Dennis where's her number, man? Holla @ a brotha Lol.
 

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A lot of guys prefer a little nitrates around 10ppm. What are your phosphates at?
 

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Both amonia and nitrite are consumed by aerobic bacteria (i.e. in the presence of oxygen). Nitrate is used up in an anaerobic process (i.e. no oxygen). Bio balls are used in a trickle system to try and elevate the oxygen level as high as possible and have as much surface area as possible. Those bio wheel HOB filters you commonly see for fresh water tanks are trying to employ the same concept. This makes them very efficient at reducing amonia and nitrite, but the end product is as much nitrate as can be produced given the bio-load of your tank. Before we started keeping lots of corals, back in the late 80's early 90's, this was fine because our fish weren't as bothered by the nitrates. Regular water changes kept things in check. Now that we've started to focus on corals, which are more sensitive to nitrates, our focus has shifted, and trickle filters have gone out of vogue. There are many ways to reduce nitrates, most of which have already been mentioned...

First, water changes. This is the most basic solution, and it has other benefits. Be sure to try and match salinity and temperature. Frequent, large swings in water chemistry can be just as bad as to much nitrate or phospate.

Second, reduce your bio-load. Less feeding, less fish, less corals, but that's no fun. I found that by keeping a good pod population in my tanks, I can feed less than I used to.

Third, you can add plants (usually algae in a saltwater tank), because they use the nitrates. This is why we have refugiums.

Fourth, you can try to increase the surface area where anaerobic conditions exist. Think internal pore space in your live rock, deep sands beds, or a couple of different marketed media. The problem is we spend oodles of money increasing circulation which, by its very nature, keeps things as aerobic as possible.

Fifth, you could try a bio-pellet reactor. I use one, but have mixed feelings. The concept is that the bacteria growing on the pellets use the nitrate (and phospate) much in the way algae does. The tumbling action then physically abrade the outside of the pellet, and the bacteria are swept away to be collected in your skimmer. New bacteria grow, and more nitrates and phosphates are consumed. Rinse and repeat (continously). Great concept, execution is not always perfect, and not all bio-pellets are created equal.

Sixth, (and it's only sixth because I forgot to mention it, and I'm too lazy to go back and re-number) make sure your skimmer is working well. Skimmers physically remove the bio-load before it can be broken down by any of the bacteria in your tank. If you do this right, you can keep as many fish and corals as you want (within reason), feed as much as you want, and still have the benefits of a reduced bio-load. On my daughter's tank, the skimmer doesn't do much until right after I feed. Then it comes to life. To me that indicates I'm efficiently removing any excess waste from the system asap, and that means less nitrates in the long run.

So that's six suggestions. That's less than a buck a suggestion. I think I've earned the five dollars. Besides, I promise to use the money to buy Starbucks for you know who.

Cheers,
Chris
 
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Lol I asked for help not a detailed dissertation , Chris :) I've tried all six bullet points aforementioned to no avail at this point with the exception of a BioPellet reactor. I do weekly WC religiously without neglect but I plan to ramp it up a bit more.

The girl asked for a DD collection piece, dinner on spindle top + year long unlimited Starbucks to boot. What am I to do? We're threading on high end territory here :).
 

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Just out of curiosity, have you tried turning off all circulation in your tank then taking one water pump and turning it on and blasting it into, onto and around all the rocks in your tank and then do the water change after all the stuff has settled on the sand? It helped me and i had a lot built up inside the rock and I didn't even think about it before.
 
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Can anyone honestly say they change their filter sock everyday? Just wanted to know cuz I'm as lazy as a government employee LOL.
 
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried turning off all circulation in your tank then taking one water pump and turning it on and blasting it into, onto and around all the rocks in your tank and then do the water change after all the stuff has settled on the sand? It helped me and i had a lot built up inside the rock and I didn't even think about it before.


Just last sat night I took my Jebao pump and blew the living bejesus out of my rocks for a good 10 mins. Even went so far to stick another pump in the overflow to stir up all the gunks that been settling there for God knows how long. Also use a shop vac in the sump. I do all of the above at least once a month if I'm not busy chasing females . We all know that in itself is a lot of work LMBO
 

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I change my filter sock once a week.......... Twice a week if I'm feeling crAzyyy.
Crazy if you done most of that if your nitrates still that high. I've haven't had nitrate in my tank for a long time but my sump is too big (75 gallon sump (an old tank) for a 180 gallon tank) so to use up the room I put in aaaaaaaaaaa lot of plants down in there and its thicker then a jungle.
 
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