I live at southwest Houston around hwy6 and bissonet. I bought some fishes and will pick up tomorrow but I found out my tank has ich so I have to treat my DT around 6 weeks. Can some of you around my area help me to keep the healthy fish what I will buy tomorrow (saturday)? They are 2 Blue tang, 1 Naso, 1 sailfin tang, 1 firefox fish tang. Please contact me at 8 three two 2 seven 9 6 0 eight four.
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webster1234
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Can he hang on to the fish a little longer for you? It would be a lot easier on the fish to keep them where they are at.
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Just make final decision is I pass this good deal because I don't want them stress or die. You guy can text him now if you want his fishes. All fishes are healthy, fat and big. 2 x Blue Tang, 1 x sailfin Tang, 1 x Naso tang, 1 x firefox fish tang for $250. Text him now at 219 three 10 five three 70
webster1234
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Good decision. The fish thank you.
Depending what you are doing to treat your tank, 6 weeks might not be long enough. There are some good threads out there on ridding your tank of ich. Depends of if you have coral or ever plan on having coral as to how you treat.
Depending what you are doing to treat your tank, 6 weeks might not be long enough. There are some good threads out there on ridding your tank of ich. Depends of if you have coral or ever plan on having coral as to how you treat.
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I have not had ick in my tank for around 13 years. And when I did I will never do again. Just keep the tank over 80 f and it should kill off the ick in a month as a guess. Keep the tank on the upper side of the heat range scale to help prevent Ick. I hope this suggestion works for you.... not a good deal if the fish pass.
Keeping ur tank at 80F or 81 or 82 or 83F does not prevent ICH. This is how myths and rumors start. No disrespect tangs, but come on man. It's like saying ICH attack works.
I had been deal with ICH at freshwater before, raise temp high on freshwater tank to speed up cycle ICH but not on saltwater tank. It will keep ICH hatch longer at high temp. I know 6 months is fair enough to killing ICH, may be 8 months is better. I get ICH because I trust my friend, he said his tank healthy and I am not ready QT. Lesson learn, NO trust any one. The seller said he may hold for me those fishes that is good.
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Ich is a overstatement in many cases.
Yes I do QT my fish for 2 weeks in the QT tank when I see no signs of ich or any other illness the fish will go in one of my frag tanks for 8 weeks.
I feed my fish in the frag tanks and DT for 50% live food, 25% frozen, 24% Nori and only 1% pellet food just because I run out of time to defrost or get the live food ready.
When after 8 weeks in the frag tank and eating all the food I give them they are ready for the DT, heck I have some fish in there "NICE FISH" that I changed my mind on for the DT and their home is the frag tank.
That said when fish are healthy and eating good they won't get sick.
Many fish die cause ppl freaking out of 1 or 2.............. well maybe 20 spots of Ick and start a stressful period by treating the fish as out the tank in a non-cycled QT and lots of medication.
Maybe a few fish survive but in most cases you can fill in the letters RIP.
Ich isn't really a big deal, if your tank is well established, not overstocked, plenty of hiding spots for the fish and good food (no pellets please) than they will fight it off and be happy.
I know many tanks that are running for 25+ years with a lot of the same fish in it and once a while you'll see a spot of the Ich on the fish but never one died from it.
You made the right decision for waiting out the results on your tank and I wish many more hobbyist would do that.
Yes I do QT my fish for 2 weeks in the QT tank when I see no signs of ich or any other illness the fish will go in one of my frag tanks for 8 weeks.
I feed my fish in the frag tanks and DT for 50% live food, 25% frozen, 24% Nori and only 1% pellet food just because I run out of time to defrost or get the live food ready.
When after 8 weeks in the frag tank and eating all the food I give them they are ready for the DT, heck I have some fish in there "NICE FISH" that I changed my mind on for the DT and their home is the frag tank.
That said when fish are healthy and eating good they won't get sick.
Many fish die cause ppl freaking out of 1 or 2.............. well maybe 20 spots of Ick and start a stressful period by treating the fish as out the tank in a non-cycled QT and lots of medication.
Maybe a few fish survive but in most cases you can fill in the letters RIP.
Ich isn't really a big deal, if your tank is well established, not overstocked, plenty of hiding spots for the fish and good food (no pellets please) than they will fight it off and be happy.
I know many tanks that are running for 25+ years with a lot of the same fish in it and once a while you'll see a spot of the Ich on the fish but never one died from it.
You made the right decision for waiting out the results on your tank and I wish many more hobbyist would do that.
So speeding up the life cycle so it can simply start again. Not a great way to combat ICH.
So depending on what part of the life cycle/stage ICH is in- it can last far longer than eliminating the entire process in just 12 days.
Put all the fish through TTM. The tank needs to stay fallow for weeks though. You can increase the temp to try and speed up the life cycle a bit, but there's not much documented evidence as to how much quicker this will speed things up.
This won't kill it and there's not any evidence saying this will trim days off the fallow time. However, there is documented evidence that 72 days was the longest time on record for ICH to remain alive before the 24 hour "find a host or die" Theront stage.
So depending on what part of the life cycle/stage ICH is in- it can last far longer than eliminating the entire process in just 12 days.
Put all the fish through TTM. The tank needs to stay fallow for weeks though. You can increase the temp to try and speed up the life cycle a bit, but there's not much documented evidence as to how much quicker this will speed things up.
This won't kill it and there's not any evidence saying this will trim days off the fallow time. However, there is documented evidence that 72 days was the longest time on record for ICH to remain alive before the 24 hour "find a host or die" Theront stage.
Diesel, unless you've been 100% with every single fish in your frag tank, it's not a great idea to observe multiple fish in a frag tank. All it takes is one fish to contaminate that tank and it's dirty. Why tank that chance.
All the money you spend on a nice system, you should invest in a QT tank. If it gets dirty, you just drain it and clean.
Keep your clean frag tank for that stunning fish, emergencies, or anemone acclimations.
Seriously, TTM is super easy and anybody can do it.
The best way is to setup a four tank system. You can do a tower or horizontal setup. Aquaclear filters or Small powerheads. I like small powerheads and small heater. Three days in fresh saltwater doesn't do anything to a fish unless you're feeding them. You can feed on the third day/ transfer day. I haven't ever had a problem with a fish or lost a fish during TTM. No medication, no worries.
All the money you spend on a nice system, you should invest in a QT tank. If it gets dirty, you just drain it and clean.
Keep your clean frag tank for that stunning fish, emergencies, or anemone acclimations.
Seriously, TTM is super easy and anybody can do it.
The best way is to setup a four tank system. You can do a tower or horizontal setup. Aquaclear filters or Small powerheads. I like small powerheads and small heater. Three days in fresh saltwater doesn't do anything to a fish unless you're feeding them. You can feed on the third day/ transfer day. I haven't ever had a problem with a fish or lost a fish during TTM. No medication, no worries.
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If you did read my post it states I have a QT, it's always running and cycled as you never know when you need it. But after two weeks with no sign of illness I don't see a reason to keep them longer in there, they will continue their journey in the frag tank.
They feel more at home and lot less stress if I move them in the frag tank.
Most fish in a small QT become sick from stress and die because of that.
Not saying you shouldn't Quarantine fish at all but if you do make it their home for that period or get something like a 40 breeder setup.
Watching for 2 weeks is like playing Russian Roulette. It's been documented several times that Velvet, Brook, and ICH all show up after two weeks.
Tisk Tisk Tisk Dennis.
Tisk Tisk Tisk Dennis.
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whose dennis?
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Well, I can argue with you about that how I proceed with my QT plan and executed by many large and very experience reef install companies but I have 0.0% time for you.
Btw, Dennis who, what are you trying to say here??
Sorry to tthouston for threat-jacking your threat.
Btw, Dennis who, what are you trying to say here??
Sorry to tthouston for threat-jacking your threat.
Dennis...I guess I was thinking how good his tank looks and how fast it grows compared to diesel's tank.
So all these "large and very experience reef companies" only QT the fish for 2 weeks and then throw them in the DT? Which companies are these?
webster1234
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C'mon people. Everybody has their preferred method and what works for one may not work for another. I know there is more than one way to QT a fish. I don't think getting into a banter back and forth is going to do anything but make people mad. Both of you are very knowledgeable and helpful contributors to those newbies that come here to learn. Most (if they are smart) will probably take what the get here and fact check it against other sites and posts anyway so please let's keep it civil. I don't want anybody to get mad and leave. This is a great community with a lot of helpful people. Let's keep it that way.
