deep water corals (1 Viewer)

[darrin]

so what is the difference (keeping alive wise) between a shallow water coral and a deep water coral? some fo the acros i am getting at the frag swap are deep water acros and i was wondering if there is any difference in how to care for them..

 

[Guest]

I wouldn't worry about captive raised SPS frags. We're talking about a species that is so brittle so that it can break off in the ocean and grow an new colony in a different place. If they are thriving in someone else's tank enough to be fragged I am sure in your tank with all the DTs you feed and light you have they will be fine.

 

[Guest]

One thing that comes to mind is that the corals will have a tendancy for chem warfare since they aren't naturally in the same areas... I believe one of Eric Borneman's presentations touched this topic of mixing corals from different depths and regions.

 

[Guest]

dt

DT's?
I thought that was a phytoplankton.
Acros are a zooplankton eater...
Do you feed enough dt's to stimulate the food chain to provide zooplankters in noticable amounts to feed your acros?
Just curious....

 

[Guest]

Are Cyclopz considered as a zooplankton??

 

[Guest]

DaAnzguy,
I am not really sure if they are consider as Zooplankon. CyclopEeze is too big for sps. Try Golden Pearl.

Darin,
Deep water sps is very hardy. They don't need as much light as the other, they even live under VHO or PC. You can aclimate them to higher light very slowly , and they will color up very well. I didn't see any deep water sps from your sps reserved list. I only frag those deep sps on request.

 

[darrin]

i thought the efflo was a deepwater coral... and i still want a piece of your blue tort someday..

 

[Guest]

Does anyone here in town stock Golden Pearls? I hear of several people using it, but I have never found any myself. I would prefer not to have to order it online.

Maybe someone with a stock of Golden Pearls might be willing to part with some.

 

[Guest]

If Dt's arent sufficient, and cyclopze arent, and not many have golden pearls, what does everyone else feed their SPS?

 

[Guest]

light

We feed em LIGHT brother!

 

[Guest]

I been feeding them Golden Pearl. It is great , it is like feeding sps with steroid.

 

[Guest]

Darin,
Efflo is not a deep water. It is a rare awsome Acro.

 

[incysor]

I pretty much figured I couldn't keep any sps under my pc lights. However from this thread it sounds like there might be some that would be do-able. Can someone post a list of deep water sps?

Thanks,

Brian

 

[Guest]

brian

Brian, from what I know about deepwater acros ( I dont know much), they are labled "bali deepwater acros".. they all seem to have very long thin branches, and very long growth patterns, and seem to be very delicate. And the cost of those colonies that are for sale are EXPENSIVE. You could update lighting for the cost that you would pay retail for a 4 inch tall peice (120+ dollars or more) and they are very delicate looking, I hope they grow fast for that price. And maybe someone locally has had a colony long enough for them to take a frag from it. But thats gotta be a 30 dollar frag for a 1 inch branch, OUCH :-o

I dont know anything about care requirements, I would think that they would require high kelvin color lighting, and cooler water temps...just a guess. Sorry if that doesnt help.

 

[Guest]

golden pearles

where did you get your Golden Pearles?

 

[darrin]

i got a frag of something from abran before his tank crashed... it was supposed to be s really rare hard to get hard to raise acro... it was a 1 inch frag... it was brown in his tank, and by the time i got it from his tank to my house in college station (1.5 hour drive) it had rtn'd into a white skeleton...

not bleaching, but rtn..

 

[Guest]

I have my deep water sps when they first come out on the market. Base on experience they are one of the hardiest acro. I have keep them around 78 to 80. Some are under 10K and some under 20K. They will survive under lower light, but they won't have nice color. Most wild colonies come in as brown, beige and green tint depend on species. It take some time to aclimate to higher light then slowly they will color up.

 

[Guest]

Darin,
I don't think I have see a deep water sps in Abran's tank. I doubt is a deep water sps, if they RTN that easily. I have never had one deep water sps RTN on me before.

 

[fishcraze]

Darrin wrote:
it was brown in his tank, and by the time i got it from his tank to my house in college station (1.5 hour drive) it had rtn'd into a white skeleton...

Could it be that the long drive from Houston to College station and may be also the heat inside the car causing the rtn too?
I agree w/ ReefALot about the hardinest of deep water corals. I got a 3" frag from him and it's really hardy. I put it on the sand bed (hence low lighting) and it was doing great. I then moved it close to the top and it got burned- more than half of the frag and thought it not going to pass. I moved it down to the sand bed again and now it is recovering fast!
IMO, deep water sps corals are hardy since they don't need very strong lighting and currents -which are close to the conditions of most home aquariums.

 

[Guest]

I think

I think most aquariums have very poor water motion, as most of these corals soft and hard come from areas of extreme water movement. And when I say extreme, think of your favorite Jacque Coustou episode with the diver floating to the right 10 feet, and to the left ten feet, and so on. Not all areas of the ocean have such strong wave action, but tidal wave action causes massive amounts of water to flow thru these corals at very fast rates. So I think we really have a hard time saying that those corals come from low water movement areas.
And the RTN question about the 1.5 hour drive. I think those corals go thru much worse conditions than a hot car ride home. Think about the fact that they are busted off a reef, thrown in a bucket, floated to the surface, sit on the deck of a boat for hours in the the sun, and then sit on a dock for a while, then in a holding tank in the collectors villlage/town, then packaged in a box, shipped into LAX, to a wholesalers tank, then to a stores tank, and finally if it lives, home to your tank. If the truck rides, boat rides, plane rides and car rides dont kill it before it gets home to you, then I think another 1.5 hour car ride should not be the cause of death after it has been alive in someone elses tank for months. High temps maybe, irritation of tissue when frag is taken...maybe.... pissed off tempormental hard to make happy sps coral....... priceless!
I am not picking at anyone, just throwing my coins into the pot!