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[FragsandMore]

... it when people are talking about soft corals and somehow include LPS in the conversation? Hammers, torches, frogspawns, Fungias, etc are all hard corals. Yes, they have big fleshy polyps that might sway with the water motion, but they do have a skeleton, which means they are hard corals. Just spouting off, ...

 

[NanoCubeKid]

What I hate is when people complain about how some people don't know one coral from another.

Just kidding... FnM.

You know it might be a nice thing for someone to just put together a really short list of very common softies, LPS, SPS that most reefers might find in their tank. The more exotic ones you don't have to talk about because those owners know what they have.

Further, a compatibility chart would be nice to keep some corals well away from others due to stinging etc.

 

[karlo]

Anthony Calfo has some posters that have all the basic information:

http://www.marinedepot.com/Illustra...um_Posters-House_Brand-BKPACAC-FIBKPS-vi.html

 

[aleaksthegreat]

Well I hope its from noobs, but did you know all your coral when you got into the hobby? I know I sure didnt, and im still learning everyday... Its better to teach than to hate on someone....

 

[Raymond]

i deal with it everyday...

 

[Ulric]

... it when people are talking about soft corals and somehow include LPS in the conversation? Hammers, torches, frogspawns, Fungias, etc are all hard corals. Yes, they have big fleshy polyps that might sway with the water motion, but they do have a skeleton, which means they are hard corals. Just spouting off, ...

Consider for a moment...what some of the experts might feel in comparing their knowledge and dealing with a bunch of us.

 

[zerocool]

you don't get smarter talking to the dumb person

 

[h2oimports]

guilty...

 

[Ulric]

you don't get smarter talking to the dumb person

Not entirely accurate... the issue here is not a matter so much of intelligence but knowledge/education.

 

[FragsandMore]

no, let me explain, I am not trying to down newcomers, cause this hobby will always need new people, otherwise, it would surely die out eventually, what i am referring to, is the people who know, or seemingly know what they are talking about that misrepresent themselves and thus, misguide the novices who ARE actually trying to learn

 

[jlord1]

oh, like petco!!!

 

[FragsandMore]

 

[Slayer311]

I take offense to that jlord1 I work for petco and don't hardly make petco a dime cause I send them here, reefcentral, ebay, marinedepot.com etc.. Its not just petco, our store gets a TON of people that come in bewildered after getting HORRID advise from places such as fish r us, and blue reef aquatics. So don't just blame petco in whole , it could be any LFS whom has the best interest of the company in mind trying to make a dime apposed to actually giving people sound advise. Unfortunately, petco pays so little you often get ill informed employes trying to help people that know just as much as they do.

 

[jlord1]

i dont try to offend, but that is the problem people that dont know advising others & several lfs do this, most to make a buck. obviously researching is key... its kinda like goin to home depot & getting electrical advice from a plumber.... fine if you dont worry about your house burning down. just my 2 cents

 

[AnnetteG]

the average person won't put in the time it takes to learn what this hobby needs, and that's all there is to it. I "gave" a 10 gallon nano tank to a "friend" when I was pregnant and getting rid of everything. She did absolutely everything bassackwards even WITH my advice and the constant phone calls asking me for advice. She started buying corals left & right, added in fish and more live rock, but then "couldn't afford" to buy a little skilter filter I recommended, or the right light I recommended for the corals she'd bought. The only time she'd do a water change was when she'd call me wondering why something was dying or looking bad or what is this weird slimy stuff growing? and I'd ask when was the last time she changed some water? Now she's up & left her family and her husband has the responsibility of the tank and HE keeps asking us questions and the tank looks absolutely pathetic, with every type of algae possible, all the nice corals I gave her & she bought are dead, but he just "loves it and wants to keep it" when we talk about it and I'm like, I will take it back, if you want, since you obviously haven't got a frickin clue. Ugh. Ok, sorry, I have serious resentment built up over this.

When I first started the hobby, I went to a very well known sponsor store, which I still love and shop at, picked out a live rock to buy because it had such pretty red coloring on it and was told by the owner that yes, it was a nice rock, and although he normally didn't sell rocks out of that particular tank, he'd make an exception for me. Got home with my prized rock and started doing some hunting online about red things growing on rocks and discovered that I'd just purchased a rock covered in cyano! So it really doesn't matter where you shop, it's all about Buyer Beware. Educate yourself or be ready to accept the responsibility of letting yourself be taken advantage of.

 

[FragsandMore]

Educate yourself or be ready to accept the responsibility of letting yourself be taken advantage of.

Great quote Annette! I actually have refused to sell things to people many times in the past because I know they will not take care of the coral to meet it's needs. I guess I have more respect for the poor critters that cannot fend for themselves against dumb people.

 

[zerocool]

I guess I have more respect for the poor critters that cannot fend for themselves against dumb people.

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

 

[flexrac]

I can't be the only one that feels that you are shooting yourself in the foot by calling your current, past or future clients dumb, stupid, or anything else. shouldn't you just educate them and or refuse to sell them anything you know they can't take care of. bashing people is not the way to go, I feel sometimes like you older reefers prefer to spend your time bashing new reefers than educating them. afterall isn't this the reason why marsh and other boards like it was created?
not for buying and selling, but for sharing.

sharing is caring!

I rather hear a store say i can't sell you this, your tank is not ready, than to hear them bash clients or sell them anything for a buck. just saying!

 

[Ulric]

I once did a trade with someone, had a nice tank/setup... i noticed though, that they had incorrectly installed their laminate flooring.

Did that make them stupid or just meant un-educated in laying flooring?


Show respect to your customers and fellow members. Remember, you may know more than many, but there are still others that know more than you.

 

[FragsandMore]

No no,please don't get me wrong, I am not talking about customers at all. I am more referring to large company-based websites that offer corals for sale. They seem to be a real big thing, but when I read stuff like that, it makes me think twice about being their customer.

I have never and would never say that I know everything there is to know. Truthfully, I don't believe anyone does. Things in this hobby are forever changing and by the time you get one aspect figrued out, a whole new on is around the corner waiting to be studied up!