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Curious about what everyone is dosing, whats working for you am getting readdy to start,k+elementsm a- elemenrts also npbactobalance
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Thinking about switching off of the calcium reactor?
 

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Very interested in this discussion! I dose BRS 2 part...Alk and Calcium and rely on monthly water changes (hW-Wiegandt Marinemix Reefer) for trace element replacement. Very curious as to what folks use for trace element and/or iodine replenishment.
 

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Very interested in this discussion! I dose BRS 2 part...Alk and Calcium and rely on monthly water changes (hW-Wiegandt Marinemix Reefer) for trace element replacement. Very curious as to what folks use for trace element and/or iodine replenishment.
I used K+ and A- elements while dosing Kalk for calcium and alkalinity. I had great growth but wanted something easier and less caustic than Kalk as I did not need the pH boost. I am now using All For Reef, which includes K+ and A- elements in the formulation and really love. One solution handle nearly all your needs and the growth has always been good.
 

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I used K+ and A- elements while dosing Kalk for calcium and alkalinity. I had great growth but wanted something easier and less caustic than Kalk as I did not need the pH boost. I am now using All For Reef, which includes K+ and A- elements in the formulation and really love. One solution handle nearly all your needs and the growth has always been good.
What are you basing your dosing on when using AFR? Alk numbers?
 

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What are you basing your dosing on when using AFR? Alk numbers?
I start with Alk consumption, but also closely follow calcium, even though it is a little more difficult. The recommendation is to follow calcium, but I found that was not very sensitive. If you see your calcium rising over time back off your dose and make up the small amount of Alk by adding a dose of Sodium Carbonate once or twice a week.
 

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I start with Alk consumption, but also closely follow calcium, even though it is a little more difficult. The recommendation is to follow calcium, but I found that was not very sensitive. If you see your calcium rising over time back off your dose and make up the small amount of Alk by adding a dose of Sodium Carbonate once or twice a week.
The instructions for AFR on BRS is to "Increase the daily dosage – by continuous control of the alkalinity", which makes sense to me.
 
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Still running the CaRx and wouldn’t change it anytime soon. Too easy. As far as supplementing on top of that I’m using BRS for additional Calcium Chloride demand, and TLF Remag for Magnesium. Still dosing trace elements individually for precision and control.

AFR is useless. You can’t control any element that is being overdosed or under dosed without stopping everything or adding a different product. They marketed well with their huge marketing team. A lot of people have taken the bait.

 

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Very interested in this discussion! I dose BRS 2 part...Alk and Calcium and rely on monthly water changes (hW-Wiegandt Marinemix Reefer) for trace element replacement. Very curious as to what folks use for trace element and/or iodine replenishment.
Having tried the Dutch Synthetic Reefing system (yes, it's been around for about 15 years and was named something else before other's marketed it as their own), I just didn't see it worth the time and effort. Does it work? Sure! 100%, same as most methods if executed correctly. I just couldn't justify the money and time to do it correctly versus just changing some water fairly regularly. I've used daily AWC (about 2-3% per day) and over the past few years, and my trace elements are always on point. Why try to dial everything in when you can just hit the reset button with a water change and not worry about over or under dosing? Mind you, I have two systems and while one is using a calcium reactor, the other has always been supplemented with 2-part, and both system's trace elements have always been solid.

Plus, I'm sure I'm ignorant on the subject, but I'm not convinced of how vital some of these trace elements are. If they exist in absurdly low concentrations to begin with, then how can they be that vital to coral growth? For instance, look at Vanadium. It exists in the ocean at .00153ppm (source: Randy Holmes-Farley). Carbon monoxide exists in the atmosphere at .09ppm, which is about 59x more concentrated in the air we breath, than the water that corals thrive in, and it kills animals. There is no beneficial side to carbon monoxide as far as animals are concerned, and to add more into the atmosphere would be insane. And yes, at any significant levels, Vanadium is toxic to ocean life, just the same as carbon monoxide is to land animals.

In addition, if the concentration, using Vanadium for example again, is .00153ppm then there simply isn't much to be used, even if corals could. Not to mention that replenishing it would take so meniscal of an amount that any dosing solution would basically just be a bottle of RO water. Haven't tested it yet, but my tap water might have more Vanadium in it than any potential dosing solution has.
 

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It’s severely lacking like all the other 2-4 bottle methods. Or the AIO methods.
When I refer to the DSR method, I mean the concept of dosing trace elements separately outside of doing water changes, and not just the main three. The contribution of the DSR was to prove that you could run a reef tank simply by replacing the elements exclusively by dosing, as opposed to water changes.
 
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When I refer to the DSR method, I mean the concept of dosing trace elements separately outside of doing water changes, and not just the main three. The contribution of the DSR was to prove that you could run a reef tank simply by replacing the elements exclusively by dosing, as opposed to water changes.
Oh, I thought you were referring to Glenn’s method.
 
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