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I was just wondering how many hobbyists read books on reefkeeping , or just learn from the net?If you do read books which ones have you read, and which ones are the most informative?The reason i ask is I wonder how much misinformation based on anecdote exist out there and how many times myth become fact.Also, with that being said, would you consider this a major problem that needs to be addressed? :)
 

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I think at the very least, people are probably reading magazine articles.

I know I get a lot of my information from wetweb which is run by Robert M. Fenner author of The Conscientious Marine Aquarist. When starting out, I also read The Simple Guide to Marine Aquariums by Jeffrey Kurtz. I think that at times, articles and even the internet can be a more valuable source than books just becasue this is an everchanging hobby and what was the common practice just a couple of years ago, may now be considered obsolete. Between writing, plublication, and distribution, some of the material may be out of date before it even hits the shelves. However, there is such a vast amount of information associated with this hobby that I think it is essential to have at least a couple reference types books on hand - especially when starting so that you have time to sort things out in a logical progression.
 
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good point.You mentioned Fenners book, what other books are worthy of mentioning.....By reading alot of post on public forums it seems like a good deal of people try to advance to quickly and dont master the fundamentals which are taught in books.I agree that information is constantly changing and outdating books but there still are many that are cutting edge.Generally speaking, most authors do extensive research and have alot of valuable experiences which is viewed by the whole world so there is alot of scrutiny...internet does pass around good information but also alot of terrible info with no responsibility. It is good to have books on hand especially in the beginning or before even starting. :D
 

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Absolutely :book1: . Even if you aren't looking at it from a conservation point of view, you can still waste a LOT of money making mistake that could have easily been avoided.
 
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I read Julain Sprung's Reef Aquarium bibles (2) cover to cover, and now i spend a lot of time reading up on other ppls experiences. I guess i've done well enough. Haven't had a tank crash yet...

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as far as reefkeeping goes, i have read many of the reefkeeping online mags and the advanced aquarist mags. not so many of the articles about product reviews, since i tend to focus on the ones that describe the animals we keep, their needs, where they come from, what to avoid in the hobby, etc. i think many will find that a lot of the things for sale at the lfs and on the web aren't particularly well suited for captive life if they'd do a little reading before making a purchase.
 
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I like to read and so a lot of what I've learned has come from books. My library consists of, both of Eric B's books, Bob Fenner's book mentioned above, Natural Reef Aquariums by Tullock, Giant Clams by Knop, and the 3 set Corals of The World. I also have Julian Sprungs Coral book.

Being that I help moderate on 3 reefkeeping forums I see a lot of problems people make by not reading and it is sometimes heartbreaking. If only people would not want to start at the top and keep the hardest of the hard to keep. Many crocea clams, many of the incredible acropora would not be ornaments.

Great topic reefsaver....
 
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Thanks sue,
Good book selection....you should ask santa for "the modern coral reef aquarium"by fossa and nilsen vol.1 thru 4.Very well written,simple to advanced, and is very informative.Good taxonomy books like verons, wallace's,or alderslades are helpful as well especially the ones that go into detail about the natural habitat. :)
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good point. :)
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dont give up yet...keep reading.good start though. :wink:
 
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Are you serious.....

:D :D :D :D

This is the list
Giant Clams----DanieL Knop (great book for clam enthiusiast)
The Modern Coral Reef Aquarium vol. #1----Fossa and Nilsen (great book, but sometimes too technical in some aspects)
The Reef Aquarium vol. 1&2---Delbeek & Sprung (A must for new hobbiest)
The New Marine Aquarium---Michael Palette (a good beginner book also)
Marine Aquariums--Dr. burgess (basic book, looks to be published in 80's)
The Book of Coral Propagation---Anthony Calfo ( I shouldnt have to rate this book :wink: )
The Marine Aquarium Handbook---Martin Moe Jr. (A necessity for any saltwater hobbiest, old book. But never gets old reading it)
Encyclopedia of Marine Invertebrates---Jerry Walls (Older book, but some good reading.
Marine Community Aquarium--- Leon Zann (Older publication. Some beautiful pictures)
Clownfish and Sea Anemones---John Tullock (Worth the 8.39 at the LFS)
The New Saltwater Aquarium Handbook---George Blasiol II (Worth the 8.39...)
Marine Reef Aquarium Handbook----Robert Goldstein (Very good book in 15 dollar range)
Saltwater Aquarium Fishes---Herbert Axelrod, Warren Burgeess (Fish manual, older but nice pictures)
Aquarium Fishes of the World--John Prescott (1976 pub. $1.13 price was a steal)
Simon and Schuster's guide to Freshwater and Marine Aquarium Fishes(a gift, but wouldnt give it back, not too informative, but still open it up for a read every once in a while)
Aquarium Corals---Eric Broneman (What needs to be said :wink: )
A Practical Guide to Corals For The Reef Aquarium(Ed Puterbaugh and Eric Borneman.... (Another great reference for a begginner)
Salwater Fish, A Guide Book---Joe Godfrey Jr. (copyright 1939... antique..and cool to have)
Corals of the Sea---Brown & Andrews( Beuatiful photography with some text. Great small coffee table book)
Aquatic Animals in the Wild and in Captivity---Patricia Curtis (kids book for my daughter, but cool pictures)
Clownfishes---Joyce Wilkerson (A must for clownfish keepers....)
Condition, Spawning and Rearing of Fish on Emphasis on Marine Clownfish Frank Hoff (This is another self explanatory book. Dont buy it unless you wanna raise clowns, its full of technical stuff with few pictures, but a must if your serious about raising marine fish from egg to sellable ages)

IMO.... There is no substitute for a good book. The net is a great resource too, but on the net material moves, and sometimes dissappears... I think both must be utilized by anyone who wants to make their "box-o-rocks" a hobby that lasts a lifetime. The more you know the easier the hobby becomes to figure out. The hard work of maintainence and water changes wont go away. But the decision on the right fish and coral and lighting and water flow and feeding questions all are answered in your head before you make the choice of wether to buy or wether to pass on that deal and buy the correct animal for the tank you have.

The best books I would reccomend for a new reef keeper are Eric Bornemans book "Aquarium Corals", and "The Reef Aquarium Books 1&2" from Delbeek and Sprung.... They are textbook quality books, and all are thick. They are priced up to 80 dollars, but worth every penny. Spend some money on a book like the ones listed and they will pay for themself in a short period of time when you learn what to do right and what you might be doing wrong. It will save you money and teach you about the whole reef ecosystems. From the reef crest to the inshore lagoons, to the mangrove systems that are a nursery for many animals. When you learn about the reef you learn about growth patterns of corals, how flow and light change a corals growth patterns.. Thats why you see these pictures of huge growths of table corals, and then a little ways away there are growths of staghorns. It shows that different water flow can make certain corals surivive in ares that some cannot survie.
I have a movie that was shot at GBR and its about an hour long, with 45 minutes of closeup reef shots, and it shows the layout and flow patterns of a real reef system.

Like a reef tank, I think a library of literature should be balanced, and a great book along the net are a balance of great knowledge!!

I also have several years of magazines that were popular in the mid 90's.

I think I have read my suggestion books cover to cover 3-4 times each. Worth every second I had my nose buried in one of those books, or on the net..

I have several books that are as basic as possible, but I still look thru them for pictures or other information. I think they are all worth it...
Hope it helps...

READ READ READ, MORE MORE MORE
 
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Also "Dynamic Aquaria" by Adey.Great book.Townsville aquarium is huge.
 
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I also am looking forward with great enthusiam for Christmas the new book out by Wayne Shang of california. He is a way above average hobbiest and has written his first book. I believe the name of the book is something like The Marine Aquarium Book. I'll double check as it has been reviewed by a good friend of mine as the best book for hobbiests by a hobbiest.

It details how Wayne went from start to finish with his 718g sps reef. Equipment, maintenance and everything else you could think of. This is a great coffee table book with all the pics.
 

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I have 8 books in my aquarium library but I would have to say that my number one source while setting up my aquarium was the internet. It even helped me decide which books to buy with threads like this one! I think that the net is a great source of information and someone could set up a great reef tank without ever purchasing a book. That being said, there is definitely an overload of information online and one has to be pretty good at seperating fact from opinion. While I don't think the net will ever totally replace the written word, it would be interesting to see if it has helped or hurt book sales within the hobby. Do people buy more books now, because they get to see reviews and recommendations online about books they may have otherwise never heard of? Or do they purchase fewer books because they think everything they need to know can be found online?
 
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I have 4 books in my collection:

The Reef Aquarium - Vol 2 - by Julian Sprung and J. Charles Delbeek
Natural Reef Aquariums - by John H Tullock
The Marine Aquarium Handbook(Beginner to Breeder) - by Martin A Moe, Jr.
A Practical Guide to Corals by Ed Puterbaugh and Eric Borneman

I think all four books have plusses and minuses. They definitely helped me from making many mistakes and will help in the future as well and I don't regret purchasing any of them. I bought these books when the internet was still fairly new(to me) and I had not gotten into the habit of checking the web for everything first.

Now I would say I would check the web for everything first, then go to books as a secondary source. To help keep the cost down of buying additional books I would definitely try used bookstores, online used books or even checking out from the library.

I like the web as an information source for the amount of information out there and the experienced people willing to help. I dislike the web as an information source for the amount of information out there and the "experts" willing to help :D I've found I've had to take everything from the web with a grain of salt because there are a lot of opinions out there and the fact that almost everyone seems to have different experiences, even with almost identical setups.

Books do tend to get outdated quickly. One of the books says that elegance corals are very easy to keep, but that was published before the current problems with elegance corals appeared.

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Re: Are you serious.....

Of all the ones you listed, I know I have these, but I have begun to loose count...

REEFCREEPER said:
The Modern Coral Reef Aquarium vol. #1----Fossa and Nilsen (great book, but sometimes too technical in some aspects)
The Reef Aquarium vol. 1&2---Delbeek & Sprung (A must for new hobbiest)
The New Marine Aquarium---Michael Palette (a good beginner book also)
The Book of Coral Propagation---Anthony Calfo ( I shouldnt have to rate this book :wink: )
Encyclopedia of Marine Invertebrates---Jerry Walls (Older book, but some good reading.
Marine Community Aquarium--- Leon Zann (Older publication. Some beautiful pictures)
Clownfish and Sea Anemones---John Tullock (Worth the 8.39 at the LFS)
The New Saltwater Aquarium Handbook---George Blasiol II (Worth the 8.39...)
Marine Reef Aquarium Handbook----Robert Goldstein (Very good book in 15 dollar range)
Saltwater Aquarium Fishes---Herbert Axelrod, Warren Burgeess (Fish manual, older but nice pictures)
Simon and Schuster's guide to Freshwater and Marine Aquarium Fishes(a gift, but wouldnt give it back, not too informative, but still open it up for a read every once in a while)
Clownfishes---Joyce Wilkerson (A must for clownfish keepers....)
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Also "Dynamic Aquaria" by Adey.Great book.Townsville aquarium is huge.
 
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I forgot Reef Invertebrates by Bob Fenner and Anthony Calfo. This also has a chapter on clam keeping which is the first new info on clams in way too long.
 

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Here's a partial list of my aqarium-related books. I've still got boxes of books in the garage that we haven't been able to find room for, so there are probably a few others.

Aquarium Corals - Eric Borneman

The Living Aquarium - Peter Hunnam

Ultimate Marine Aquariums: Saltwater Dream Systems and How They Are Created - Michael S. Paletta

The Ultimate Aquarium: A Definitive Guide to Identifying and Keeping Freshwater and Marine Fishes - Mary Bailey & Gina Sandford

Reef Life - Tackett & Tackett

Natural Reef Aquariums - John H. Tullock

Marine Aquarium Problem Solver - Nick Dakin

Marine Invertebrates - U. Erich Friese

Saltwater Aquarium Fishes - Axlerod & Burges

Reef Notes - Revised and Revisted by Julian Sprung

While I've read these, and a handful of others, most of my daily info/questions are answered online. It's an interesting change for me from the norm. I really love books, but I found enough differing opinions and obsolete info in the books to keep me looking mainly online for up-to-date info. I've even got one book that was written in the mid 80s, that states that SPS corals will never successfully be kept in hobbyist's aquariums. :lol: I got the book because it had nicely detailed instructions on how to build your own tank.
Execpt for taxonomy books I think that a lot of the info in the books is obsolete, or at least somewhat outdated within 3-5yrs. This keeps me from spending a ton of money on books and lets me wait until I can find them at half-price or another used book store cause there isn't anything that compares to a book when it comes to pictures.
 
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