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[Nam0821]

My setup is a biocube 29 with all softy, system is currently running for 6 month now, just recently added fish, and for the last couple of days all my show sign of hyperventilating n slowly die of one by one. At the same time this happen I start trying kents product, coral vital, essential elements n iodine....is the dosing the problem cause I have the water tested 4 time n everything is within par

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[Diesel]

Sounds like Velvet, rapidly breathing and fast dead following after that.
How long ago did you bought the new fish?
No quarantine?

 

[reeftopia]

Rookie mistake, added too many fish, 29 gal cant handle much bio load, 1 or 2 small fish, small fish, no tangs or angel fish, anything that will get large. You will need to wait before adding again at least a week or 2, there is most likey something your not checking or your checking wrong

 

[Nam0821]

I have 4 clown, 1 diamond goby, 1 coral beauty and 2 skunk cleaner (doing great n carry egg all the time)...all my fish came from marsh members, in my last tank I brought fish from lfs n didn't have success but I got a few fish from marsh members n they did great so when I sold my tank n started the biocube I only buy my fish from marsh members so I didn't think a quarantine system is needed

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[webster1234]

6 fish is a 29 gal is too many to start with. Could be oxygen deprivation. Could also have something to do with your additives. Why are you adding coral vital, essential elements, and iodine to a 29 gallon with softies? I wouldn't be dosing anything if I were you. Especially in a new tank. Water changes should give you everything you need unless you have a lot of SPS. Use a good salt mix and do 10% a week.

 

[inigomontoya]

Did you check for ammonia? Do the fish show signs of disease? It could be any of the above, though if the recent fish came out of a members tank then velvet is very unlikely. Velvet is ugly and fast so it would have decimated the prior persons tank probably. Immediately I would do a water change and maybe add some form of airstone and a biofilter aid like stability or Fritzyme.
Those aren't huge fish, but if you added them all at once, that could be a problem. With clownfish it could be brook, but again I would be surprised if coming from another member - it's just as fast and ugly as velvet. Don't know about it's latency period though.

 

[reeftopia]

Thats 8 fish in a 29 gal not to mention any corals, the best reefer here couldnt keep 8 fish alive in a 29 gal tank long term

 

[cacarnold3]

+1 to inigomontoya's post. I'd add an airstone and check the ammonia levels.

 

[Nam0821]

Thanks for the advice n info y'all, got 30 gal of mix water from a lfs, gona slowly change out the water within a few week. Just added the air stone into tank

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[inigomontoya]

Six fish David (2 shrimp-less bioload). Nam - I am not a "tang police" type, but I would reconsider the 4 clownfish. In my 8 foot tank I had 4 clownfish that I setup on opposite sides of the tank until the paired female killed one and harassed the baby one into a corner never letting him out. She would swim all the way across the tank to chase him back into the corner and then go back to her area. I relocated the baby fairly quickly after the other was killed. In a 29 they might last for a bit as juvis, but it will be trouble later.
Also don't take weeks on the water change - I would do 25% today just in case it is ammonia, then add some Seachem stability.

 

[reeftopia]

Your right should have looked closer, still too many fish though

 

[inigomontoya]

Your right should have looked closer, still too many fish though

agreed, that's why the biofilter getting overwhelmed and creating some ammonia seems likely. Also why I think the stability or fritzyme would help get over the hump.

 

[Nam0821]

Thanks inigomontoya, I just did the water change n already running a bag of seachem to remove any unwanted stuff in the water, I'm not housing any tang in the cube. Just took the water to lfs to get retest again cause I second guess my home test haha...o well, as long as the shrimp r doing fine, I'm not planning to add any fish for a min

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[tektite]

If it was a disease that took them out, you'll need to leave the tank fishless for at least 2 months. Then adding one fish every 2-3 weeks will help let the tank adjust for the new bioload. And definitely no more than 2 clowns, as long as they're a bonded/mated pair. Most aquariums have some diseases that the fish live with, moving the fish to a new environment added a considerable amount of stress to them, which makes them very vulnerable to disease. Then after a few days or so, the tank's bacteria was not able to cope with the added bioload and ammonia and/or nitrite could have started building. On top of their stress, it was just too much for them to handle. Restocking slowly after 2 months will get your tank back up with fish in no time Just seems like a long time when you think about it. Also in a smaller tank, consider what fish you want to add and start with the least aggressive fish. If you put the most aggressive in first, and they have a small tank alone for a few weeks, they will not be happy with new additions and will chase/attack the new guys causing them a lot of stress.

 

[Nam0821]

I don't think it was a disease, I being buying alot of frag lately n sticking my hand in the water alot, also adjusting my aquascape. Just did a 50% water change yesterday and retested water again today....everything was within par.

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[emixa]

dude, that is way too much activity and fish for that tank. this my be dumb but I have always followed the philosophy of a fish per 10 gal. In this case, that's (3) fish. what is sump size look like. you might be able to get away with more. all I say is my advise. others have had better success. add more air to your water. should help.

 

[Nam0821]

Thanks emixa for the advice. This isn't my first rodeo but you can never learn too much

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