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i need lots of copopods and amphipods for my 20g salt. i am not sure how to get them or if i can only get them from live rock and live sand.
 

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You can introduce them into a tank by, Live rock, live sand, macro algae, detrivore kit.

Next question being whats in your tank right now? ANy pod predators? Do you have a fuge?
 

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Some people sell refugium 'starter kits' from their own refugia (I do for $10 that includes three kinds of macroalgae, juvenile and reproducing adult mysid shrimp, juvenile and adult copepods/amphipods, a couple of cups of live sand, and some brittlestars). Some people may even be generous enough to give you some macro that will undoubtedly contain a few critters.

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Once you get a few in your system, feed DT's regularly and they will multiply so fast it will make your head spin.
 
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I met you at Aquatic Center right?

If you want to keep two mandarins in a 20G we will have to discuss more advanced methods than we have so far for you to have enough pods to feed them.
 
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i am planning on setting up 2 intank refugiums. hopefully that will be enough breeding ground for them. and yes i want to put a mandarin goby and a psycadelic goby in the tank. Oh and one algae blenny. so needless to say i need lots and lots of pods. so if anyone knows or can think of a way for me to get enough to feed them please let me know. Oh and please excuse my ignorance but what is a DT?
 
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DT's is live phytoplankton you can buy in bottles at most of the better fish stores. Basically, it's food for the microfauna in your tank, i.e. pods.
 
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I am not sure what a in tank refugium is. If the gobies can eat the pods in the in tank refugium then it is not a refuge for them. I think the only way you could manage to keep two pod predators full with pods and keep them from starving to death is if you start a pod culture. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2003/breeder2.htm
I may start one of these cultures soon because everyone is always wanting pods.
 

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I dont think you will be able to sustain a sufficient pod population with an in take fuge on a 20 for 2 mandarins.

I have a mandarin in my tank with a seperate ~ 7 gallon fuge full of live rock and macro algae and barely keep a good supply for my 1 mandarin.

Unless you get some fish that will take frozen also, our get a larger fuge, I think you'll not have very good luck.
 

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Hello ~

One mandarin in a 20 gallon tank is a disaster, let alone two. That's not fair to the fish to do that...people think that just because they see bugs and lots of life in their tank that it can sustain a mandarin, and you know what? A small percentage of the mandarins switch to eating dead food but the vast majority of them eventually starve and die, and they take a good long while to starve to death, too. If your tank is only a few months old, just be patient and let the pods build up a sustainable population before putting a fish in their that eats hundreds of pods a day ~ buy some good bug kits (such as from Inland Aquatics or Indo-Pacific Sea Farms), give your tank a bare minimum of 6 months to mature (better yet, give it a year), and don't add other fish that will compete for the mandarin's food and decimate the pod population, like wrasses and scooter blennies and gobies, etc. And please, please don't think about putting one in a 20 gallon tank.

I usually don't get involved in threads like this, but you really need to hear from people who have seen this same tragedy play out over and over and over and over. Different person, different forum, same story.

~ Sherri
 
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