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My tank and my wife's tank both have super high nitrates and I'm pretty sure it's due to feeding too much and too often. We feed my tank every day and my wife's every other day to every day. We barely have any fish in either of ours so I was wondering how often y'all feed and how much.
 

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I feed my fish twice daily and my corals twice a week. I clean my filter socks once or twice a week as well.
I have a 120 with miracle mud and lots of chaeto algae in my sump. My nitrates are zero. I use a phosphate reactor
For phosphate removal. Never had a problem with high levels of anything. Been lucky I guess.

My tank is predominately LPS with a few SPS (bird nests). Feed mysis shrimp and algae sheets to the fish.
My corals get fresh Shrimp, mysis and Phytoplankton. I occasionally use reef snow and garlic extract as well.
Target feeding only for the corals.

10% water change every to weeks. like clock work.

I have the following fish:
Blue tang
Yellow tang
Pare of clowns
Red fin Fairy wrasse
Blue throat trigger female
Blue damsel
Most of my fish are 3” or +or -.
All my fish and corals grown very well.

It’s a lot easier to keep nitrates low than it is to reducethem.
I have setup many saltwater fish tanks with miracle mud and algaeand I have never had high nitrate issues. My fish only tanks
Were always at 10ppm or bellow.
 
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I use about 2 to 3 inches of aragonite or sand for substrateand I use a siphon to clean out the aragonite when I do my water changes.
I know lots of people prefer the live sand beds but I havenever used them with this filtration setup.
 
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I feed once a day 2 cubes of frozen food and some nori. I give just a tiny bit of flake food in with it.

You can feed more frozen food without worrying about high nitrates if you over feed a bit since it's got alot of water in it. Flake and pellet food is super concetrated so it breaks down into more nutrients , so if you over feed flake you'll nitrate will climb faster.
My nitrates stay at right around 0.25ppm to 1ppm with my feeding schedule in a 125 gallon with 2 clownfish, I green chromis,1 blue tang, 1 Yellow Watchman Goby, 1 banded high fin goby, and 1 lawnmower blenny.
I use Red Sea Nitrate Pro test kit.
 
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40ppm is very high. I would back off on the pellet foods andfeed frozen mysis. I agree with fish keeper82, flakes and pellets can add a lot
Of nitrates and phosphate to your tank. The my fish always prefershrimp to pellets.

Sound like you guys are over feeding in my opinion. It’seasy to do when the fish follow you around begging for more food.
 
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If you have a decent skimmer and don't see any other signs of excess nutrients like alot of algae growth. I would suggest tying a different test kit or having it tested at a LFS.
In a tank a few years back i had my API was reading 40 ppm. I did numerous water changes and they never got lower. I tested with another kit (Salifert I believe at the time) and it was actually around 5ppm. Never quite trusted API after that. Several on RC had the same experience.
 
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I knew a guy on RC once that lost a pair of clownfish for like over a year. He was messing around one day with the overflows and noticed something down there. Yep...the pair of clowns was in there. How much do you think they were directly fed in that time? Lol
 

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Autofeeder feeds pellets 5x/day, I supplement at night with frozen mix and nori and feed a ton of it.

I'm of the high import/high export camp. Feed the heck out of your tank and export as much as you can of the nutrients as well afterwards.

https://youtu.be/8QtJVsYNtOI

When water changes are concerned, nitrate removal is a direct function of how much water is exchanged. Change 50% of your water... you lower the nitrate concentration by 50%.

Denitrification, the process of breaking down nitrates, is an anoxic process, without oxygen, and typically happens in our reef tanks in deep sand beds and in the deep interior portions of live rock. Other methods commonly used to remove nitrates employ bacterial uptake, such as carbon dosing, with the bacteria being skimmed out of the system. You can also use a sulphur reactor to remove nitrates as well.

I use biopellets because I tend to like the look of an overstocked tank and believe in heavy import/heavy export. Without my biopellets, even with the amount of additional rock I have in my sump, it can't keep up with my feedings and fish population and would jump to 50 ppm if I remove the biopellets.

For your tank, I would suggest instead of starving your fish (which most graze constantly for food), employ one of the strategies I mentioned above to keep nitrates lower and keep happy , healthy fish while you're at it. The alternative to me is like feeding your dog every other day because you don't want to pick up poop all the time. Sorry, I know that's a severely skewed analogy with implied judgmental tones (which is not my intent) but the best I can think of this early in the morning.
 
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I agree 100% that's why I was wondering when fish actually get hungry. I feed pellets and nori once a day and frozen every other day.
 

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For your tank, I would suggest instead of starving your fish (which most graze constantly for food), employ one of the strategies I mentioned above to keep nitrates lower and keep happy , healthy fish while you're at it. The alternative to me is like feeding your dog every other day because you don't want to pick up poop all the time. Sorry, I know that's a severely skewed analogy with implied judgmental tones (which is not my intent) but the best I can think of this early in the morning.

I like that dog analogy...haha. I have a lot of big fish too and I feed them quite a bit 3x daily. Morning, NLS pellets, and approximately 5 cubes of Mysis (I actually buy the 2lb packs of Mysis and break off a chunk, and mix that with brine and hykari, so I would estimate it equal to about 5 cubes of the PE Mysis). Then lunch is reef frenzy, then dinner is a repeat of breakfast along with nori on 3 separate clips. I also feed my corals oyster feast 3x weekly, and a piece of table shrimp cut up and spread over a week to my fire shrimps and brittle stars. My nitrates stay around 5-10 ppm and my PO4 is around .03-.07. This is a crummy pic but you can see I don't have any algae issues considering how much I feed and the size/number of fish I have.

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I'm going to pick up a second test and retest. It's probably right though. I get a lot of buildup on my acrylic.
 

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I agree 100% that's why I was wondering when fish actually get hungry.

I think my fish are always hungry. Every time I walk into the room, they rush to the corner like little dogs, begging for a treat. When they see me go to the fridge and get out the food container, they start dancing around with excitement. How can I turn that down? The good thing is, I don't have to.
 

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I have an auto-feeder feeding pellet food 4X a day plus if I'm around frozen food 2-3X (all pretty small servings), and 2X 2" square bits of Nori. I have 1 Foxface, 2 clowns, 2 anthias. My nitrates always come out zero, and my phosphates are ~0.1 - 0.2. I keep mostly LPS.

When I had no fish, and fed the tank ~once a month, my tank was anemic and the two acro's I had did not grow for ~5+ years. Once I started feeding the SPS started growing. Although my rocks are very green, I have minimal nuisance algae, my corals are well colored and growing, so I'm continuing this strategy.

I'd at least check that nitrate test reading by taking a sample to a LFS that will test it for you e.g. Oceanlife.

(Oh technical clarification, denitrification takes place sub-oxically. Anoxically you have sulfate reduction.)
 

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I think my fish are always hungry. Every time I walk into the room, they rush to the corner like little dogs, begging for a treat. When they see me go to the fridge and get out the food container, they start dancing around with excitement. How can I turn that down? The good thing is, I don't have to.

Besides, how could you walk past all these pathetic starving fishes and not want to give them something, even if it is only a few table scraps....

https://youtu.be/UmKguO1_NcY

https://youtu.be/uiDAEYLUAZU

P.S. please don't call the tang police
 
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