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Largest Coral Farm In the Country...In Houston? (1 Viewer)

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I think there is some place out on Hwy. 6 that he might be talking about. I noticed that post was from last year, so maybe this place didn't make it?? I don't know. Seems Keith even mentioned some place out that way one time too.
 
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invincible569 said:
thats a surprise to me. why dont you ask him?

Edward I'd hate to ask him and find out the guy is an investor in some coral farm in Florida. I just have a hard time believing something like this exists in Houston and no one knows about it. If it does exist we'll have to do a MARSH tour soon.
 
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I think it would be very difficult to have a financially viable coral farm in our climate. I've read Anthony Calfo's book, and he goes into a lot of the business side of coral propagation. He says the only way to do it profitably is with a greenhouse setup, which would not work well here.
 
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mikester said:
I think it would be very difficult to have a financially viable coral farm in our climate. I've read Anthony Calfo's book, and he goes into a lot of the business side of coral propagation. He says the only way to do it profitably is with a greenhouse setup, which would not work well here.


Thats exactly what I was thinking. The climate here is too unpredictable at times with crazy fluctuations in temperature. Not only that, it would be easier and more practical to have a coral farm in California or Florida instead as you are the first point in contact from getting your corals instead of having to ship corals/fish TWICE.

tcarlson, let me ask him.
 
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Go ahead Edward doesn't matter to me.

I will say though I grew up having a green house in our back yard and it never got over 88 degrees inside the green house. Our neighbor used to own a nuserey and he had two industrial sized green houses in his back yard with fans that stayed at 85. Using geothermal cooling I think it is possible to have a coral farm in Houston however I think it is more practical to do it in Florida where you could have an open system with natural SW. California's taxes and electrical costs are too high to have one there.

Check out o2manyfish.com or o2manyfish on RC he has tanks just outside with a chiller in FL to grow frags.
 
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I had heard that it would be cheaper to heat a coral greenhouse up north compared to cooling one in houston..
 
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tcarslon... its true!! good find! here is his response:

I'm tending it this weekend, in fact. We have the countries (and perhaps world's) largest collection of Caribbean species being developed for research there, and they are about to go into full production for the aquarium trade. Right now, there are only a few thousand aquarium corals ;-) I think they will start becoming available in about a year. They (we, actually) are working hard to get some pretty special broodstock.

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Haha, is it wrong of me to ask if the tesselated blenny project will get in the way of the coral farm Eric is working on? :D
 
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Cakepro said:
Haha, is it wrong of me to ask if the tesselated blenny project will get in the way of the coral farm Eric is working on? :D

Did you guys assign the blenny project to Eric? Honestly, I think the blenny project is not his field of expertise. he's a coral pro instead. I never even knew the blenny project was still going on. Thought it died down.
 
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AggieBrandon said:
I think she was being tacky
Who? Sherri? NEVER!!! ;)

Truthfully, though, I have not heard anything about the blenny project since the presentation in March. I know that Eric was unaware of it until I talked to him after that meeting. He was never "assigned" to the project.

Eric is currently working on the Elegance Coral Project that he discussed with us in April. I think that that is a very worthwhile effort, and I hope to hear more about the project as it progresses.

This Coral farm sounds very intriguing. I hope to talk to Eric soon and see if there may be a way for us to get a guided tour of the farm as one of our upcoming meetings. As soon as I know anything, I will certainly post it. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Jim 8)
 
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I met these these guys and did some business with them at AC awhile back and they were talking about some huge coral ponds in a private warehouse here in Stafford area. I have not seen or heard from them in about 6 months and always wander what going on with the project. SO IF YOU GUYS READING THIS THREAD please post something.
 

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A quick search online I found this paper by Eric
http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/Coral_Workshop/Coral Update Papers/Clonal Culture.pdf

It contains a discription of the systems:

Facility
The facility being used to develop clonal lines is Reef Savers, Inc., a large coral farm in Stafford,
Texas. Several systems were set aside and designated exclusively for the project, with numerous
systems available for expansion, if required. The systems are composed of 250-gallon acrylic
tank modules, with a total system volume of approximately 5000 gallons. Each module tank
shares the same system water volume, although each tank is capable of being isolated by shut
off-valves from every other tank in the module. Each tank is illuminated by various
combinations of metal halide lamps, ranging from 250 – 400 watts utilizing different spectrums
from 6500K to 20,000K, depending on the depth and irradiance levels that
are being emulated. Additionally, very high output actinic fluorescent lamps are used to simulate
dawn and dusk and allow for a more gradual and natural increase and decrease in photosynthetic
rates of coral colonies.

The tanks are designed to maximize gas exchange and ensure saturated or supersaturated levels
of oxygen. Water flow is provided by a number of methods. Primary flow is accomplished large
diameter outflows of commercial grade centrifugal pumps. By themselves, they provide
unidirectional flow along the length of the tank that is between 5-20 cm/second depending on the
distance from the pump outflow. This alone provides water flow equivalent to areas of maximal
coral diversity. In addition, large outflow “propeller” powerheads (Tunze Stream pumps) provide
turbulence against the laminar flow with total flow per powerhead of approximately 7,000 –
10,000 gallons/hour. Finally, surge tanks are used on one system designed to emulate to highenergy
environment, allowing an environment conducive to rapid growth of shallow water
species.

Water quality is maintained on each system by the use of large protein skimmers using Mazzei
venturis and each powered by a designated high-pressure commercial pump. A four inch deep
sand bed is used in each tank of fine-grained oolitic aragonite sand to provide habitat for
decomposing meiofauna and microbial flora that is a primary source of nutrient processing.
Additionally, live rock is used in the sump of each stack to increase habitat and biodiversity for
meiofauna and the production of zooplankton. Pacific systems utilize Pacific live rock and
Caribbean systems utilize Atlantic aquacultured live rock. Water for the systems is artificial,
utilizing Crystal Seas BioAssay formula (Marine Enterprises, Inc.). Source water is purified
through a commercial mixed bed deionization and reverse osmosis system, and mixed seawater
additionally filtered though a 2 micron cartridge filter to further remove impurities.

Calcium and carbonate is replenished by several means; through the addition of reagent grade
calcium chloride and sodium carbonate, and by calcium reactors. The reactors operate by
bubbling carbon dioxide through a specially designed chamber containing various natural marine
sources of calcium carbonate that we have mixed to maximize various minor and trace element
constituents. No other elements are added as supplements to the systems. Water quality is
measured regularly, and average values are shown in Table 1.

See the link for the full paper. Sounds very interesting.
 
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