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The thing about it is . I had left the hobby for about 4 years. As I acquired a 90 gallon and will be making it a SPS only tank .. The lighting I'm use to is M.H. But it seems everyone whom I've read are switching to L.E.D . Can y'all give me some inputs . The pros and cons the experience tall had .. Thank you , oh and are they worth it or just stay old school thank you once again ..


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There are plenty of reefers going back to and staying with MH. Also doing hybrid MH/t5 and MH/led. General consensus is with leds you need more than the recommended amount.
But there are others more qualified to speak to that.
 
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Well I still have some old metal halide fixtures I can use . Is the consumption of light a big difference between a the 2 ? If I use the M.H. I would be using 2-250wt m.h.


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What ever you think suit your tank as it's all personal.
I can say that I ran for 3.5 years LED's, manly Ecotech Radions.
I have had them all from Gen 1 to the Pro 3.
That said I went back to T5............. IMO I have healthier SPS and better growth, again that's personal.
I have seen tanks from softies to mix and SPS with LED's that look great, even my own tank with LED's was looking awesome.

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Here's a pic from about 18 months ago with my 5 radions.

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These are pics from 8 months ago but with the ATI T5 power module hybrid, running with Giesemann bulbs only.
 

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There are two sides to the question of which lights are better. The first one is "which lights are better FOR THE CORAL?", and the second is "which lights are easier for me?".

The first is by definition subjective, and can be debated endlessly, since we can't just ask the corals what they think. Well, I should say, we can ask them, we just can't hear their answer.

The second is pretty solid, and like most things, revolve around money. LED's are expensive up front, but use very little power, and their lifespan is measured in years at least, if not decades. They also run relatively cool, so they don't heat up the tank or the room significantly. So overall, the cost to operate is minimal.

MH lights are not cheap up front, especially if buying new, and the bulbs do deteriorate with use to the point that they require replacement regularly, but the biggest drawback is power consumption, both in terms of increased electrical bills, and in elevating the water temp, often to the point that it must be externally chilled, and requiring additional air conditioning to keep the room at a comfortable temp.

T5 lights can be set up for very minimal up front cost if you buy commercial type fixtures and retrofit them into a canopy or some such, and the heat output is much more manageable than MH. But most aquariums require multiple bulbs to reach desirable par values, and they are not cheap, plus they deteriorate quite rapidly and must be changed regularly. They do offer the ability to mix and match output spectrums and tailor the overall light to your personally preferred balance of visual interest and coral growth.

Somebody with more direct experience can hopefully chime in with some actual quantitative data for us.
 

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A year ago I got my 1200 k led and is the best investment I ever made. With the t5 system I had I had lots of red algae and heat being produced. Led has very little algae no red and very little heat. I can grow clams with it so all is good. I now do a small partial water change every 4 months and using only 1 big power head... 2 small ones. See how it goes.
 

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Welcome back!

Led sucks. My 45/g with great PE but no growth.

Tank is small but running dosing pumps and every few day testing like a full reef :)

This is the first time I'm running LEDS. You know me...been running 400 MH for a long time.


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OceanRevive T247, similar to reef breeder but slick looking. Running blue at 70%, white 50%.

Yes that's MP40 in my nano :)

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Hello john, long time my friend good to see some old members . Here hope to get this going the right way , as I been out the game for a while I'm reading up a lot . I guess I'll be using my old equipment . What I am going to be looking for a good controller can you wide me threw that ?


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Finding the right info for the right lights you have to look further than this forum.
Comments like "LEDs sucks" you can't build on.
If you ran them for a blue Monday yes maybe but I ran them for 3.5 years, I know they work, I saw too many tanks that were I awe.
I switched due to a marketing offer I couldn't refuse, on the table I have a new offer to switch back to LED's again and I might do it.
This hobby is so much bigger than we all think it is and it takes a lot of research to do the right thing.
Of course MH are proven lights but with so many negative vs positive, as well are T5's or a combination of both as jskeen already mentioned.
And yet there are many ppl who believe in them as I have seen it myself, if you can live with the negative points, no problem.
Here a thread that might help you and if you bring out this same topic in your own thread you get so much more info that you can use.

EcoTech Radion Full Tank Shots. (Find them here!) | Page 3 | REEF2REEF Saltwater and Reef Aquarium Forum
 
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Hello john, long time my friend good to see some old members . Here hope to get this going the right way , as I been out the game for a while I'm reading up a lot . I guess I'll be using my old equipment . What I am going to be looking for a good controller can you wide me threw that?

Yup still around. Recently sold my large tank and sold the house so in the next few months once move in to the new house, new tank build will start. If you need anything just shoot me a PM.
 
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