Persistent Cyano (1 Viewer)

[Aggiefish12]

I've been having annoying levels of Cyanobacteria in my 10 gallon fusion for the last month or so. My phosphates and nitrates are zero but it still hangs around. My chaeto is growing really well so I know it is pulling nutrients from tank. I run Purigen carbon and a small amount of GFO. I've heard the phosphates can get locked in the cyano and that's what keeps it around. Has anyone else heard of this? I'm upgrading from a hydor koriela 240 to a jaebo wp-10 for a circ pump. I also tried ultralife red slime remover and it didn't really do much. Any ideas on what else to try?


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[Diesel]

Bring up your No3 a bit as zero is not good.
Cyano is a bacteria, PC and GFO won't do nothing to it.
Best treatment is removing it by sucking it out with a hose or tubing and replacing the water with new water.
Your 10 gallon really doesn't need PC or GFO, just a WC of 0.5 gallon a day as we speak.

 

[Aggiefish12]

I do ~1.5 gal wc weekly. Are you saying I need to change .5 gal a day to get rid of cyano? Why would I want nitrate present in the tank? I'm assuming my test reads 0 because any nitrate present gets absorbed immediately by whatever needs it


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[PSXerholic]

Hi,
the best and most efficient way to battle a bacteria is to compete it outta tank with another bacteria.........eeeeeeeeeeeasy.
Seriously, watch nutrients but make sure a little bit is left over to feed the good bacteria in the tank.

If you have low nutrients due to GFO and other techniques, you might not have sufficient bacteria strains in the tank to compete the cyanos.
Try Biodigest and see if it works, it a process over a few weeks, but safe and will help to establish a biological environment with sufficient bacteria.
But bacteria need food such as Nitrates, PO4 etc..........

 

[PSXerholic]

By the way, know a few guys used the red slime remover and got no results other than killing the bacteria in the tank, and guess what which bacteria came back first? Not the good ones...............

 

[eraser2001]

Thanks for the info PSXerholic.
I have 3 weeks fighting with the cyano. I'm running zeovit method and I have been dosing all the suggest from zeovit forum, but I still have. So every friday I remove manually and change my water. Now I m training the cyanoclean. Let see what happen with this product.

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[PSXerholic]

Thanks for the info PSXerholic.
I have 3 weeks fighting with the cyano. I'm running zeovit method and I have been dosing all the suggest from zeovit forum, but I still have. So every friday I remove manually and change my water. Now I m training the cyanoclean. Let see what happen with this product.

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what product?
In case you mean biodigest, go for it. This is only bacteria strains and nothin else.
No killer products should be used in my opinion.
Anyways, the bacteria need food, so do get them some Po4 and nitrates to eat.
The cyanos will disappear after around 4-6 weeks but they start getting less red after 1 week in my case.
I do see still some of them in my tank but only in the low flow areas so I clearly can battle the remaining ones with more flow there.

Good luck.

 

[eraser2001]

I was using coral snow with zeoback in the morning and zeozym in the night. Now I'm using coral snow and zeozym mixed with zeoback in the night and cyanocleam from zeovit in the mornings.

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[Diesel]

Thanks for the info PSXerholic.
I have 3 weeks fighting with the cyano. I'm running zeovit method and I have been dosing all the suggest from zeovit forum, but I still have. So every friday I remove manually and change my water. Now I m training the cyanoclean. Let see what happen with this product.

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Explain what you do for the ZEO method, daily dose, WC, water parameters from the last 4 weeks give and take?
What all do you run on your tank?
ZEO is so defined, it does matter how you run your skimmer, using carbon and sump setup.

 

[Diesel]

I was using coral snow with zeoback in the morning and zeozym in the night. Now I'm using coral snow and zeozym mixed with zeoback in the night and cyanocleam from zeovit in the mornings.

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Everyday?

 

[eraser2001]

Yes

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[Diesel]

I do ~1.5 gal wc weekly. Are you saying I need to change .5 gal a day to get rid of cyano? Why would I want nitrate present in the tank? I'm assuming my test reads 0 because any nitrate present gets absorbed immediately by whatever needs it


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Yes, if possible 0.5 gallon cause you got only a 10 gallon tank.
Only reason why is you suck out the cyano with it and what's not in your tank can't harm anything.
Dose some phosphorus to bring up No3 for a food source for the good anaerobic bacteria.
Don't worry everyone has Cyano, yours you just see cause you're a bit of balance.

 

[Diesel]

Yes

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Ok tell me this, what's the definition of the two products?

 

[PSXerholic]

Cyano is like Diesel said a part of nature. Just get it in the balance competed by the others.
And it's a SOB, even survives in space with no issues, lol.
See that:

Microbes called cyanobacteria survived attached to the space station's exterior for 553 days.

Microbial Star Trekkers Survive 553 Days in Space : Discovery News : Discovery News

 

[eraser2001]

Diesel
Zeozym, coral snow, zeoback or cyanoclean. Which one ?

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[Diesel]

Diesel
Zeozym, coral snow, zeoback or cyanoclean. Which one ?

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All of them.
Not trying to be difficult but some of them have the same end results.

 

[Aggiefish12]

Ok I took out the carbon and GFO. I'll start siphoning out as much as I can daily doing the .5 gal water change and let y'all know how that works! That's for all the help guys!


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[eraser2001]

All of them.
Not trying to be difficult but some of them have the same end results.

I know Ben, don't worry and I also you are expert in Zeovit
Zeoback : Bacterial additive for ZEOvit low-nutrient reef aquarium systems
Coral Snow: Liquid reef aquarium filter media for SPS, LPS, soft corals & clams, Neutralizes undesirable acids that negatively affect reef chemistry & Dramatically improves reef aquarium water clarity after initial cloudiness
ZeoZym:is a biological stimulate which increases bacterial metabolism and amplifies the effect of ZEObak and BioMate. Helps control slime algae (Cyanobacteria) biologically
Cyanoclena:Formulated with nutrient-scavenging bacterial strains that diminish Cyanobacteria's food source

 

[Mark L.]

I know Ben, don't worry and I also you are expert in Zeovit
Zeoback : Bacterial additive for ZEOvit low-nutrient reef aquarium systems
Coral Snow: Liquid reef aquarium filter media for SPS, LPS, soft corals & clams, Neutralizes undesirable acids that negatively affect reef chemistry & Dramatically improves reef aquarium water clarity after initial cloudiness
ZeoZym:is a biological stimulate which increases bacterial metabolism and amplifies the effect of ZEObak and BioMate. Helps control slime algae (Cyanobacteria) biologically
Cyanoclena:Formulated with nutrient-scavenging bacterial strains that diminish Cyanobacteria's food source

Do you use ZEOStart on a daily basis and if so how much?

I run the Zeovit system as well. I agree with what Diesel and PSX are suggesting. The only thing I will add that I have had cyano in the past and actually have it again right now. It seems to pop up in my tank about once every 8 months to a year. I do what has been suggested by water changes, sucking out all that you can, continue use of Zeobak (a little elevated to help outpace the cyano) and even Cyanoclean. That is supposed to be a different bacteria from Zeobak. BUT, when that all doesn't work I do use a product called Ultralife Red Slime Stain Remover. The packaging specifically states it is safe for nitrifying bacteria. Now we all know about packaging so the way I see it is, even if it does kill off your good bacteria, you are actively adding it back in with your Zeobak and Cyanoclean products. You aren't adding the cyano back in.

Again, try all the methods outlined in the thread because I don't like adding anything I don't need too. Only when it comes down to that pesky month where nothing seems to be working I'll pull out the big guns and nuke it with this product. It DOES work as prescribed. Just make sure you continue to add your GOOD bacteria back in just in case the label is wrong. Has always worked for me. YMMV.

 

[eraser2001]

Yes I use ZEOstart .5 ml in the morning and .5ml in the night. My display is 150 gallons with 30g in the sump, but total water is 120 gallons aprox. I put 6 cyanoclean drops every day sinces Sunday

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