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Ok, I have a 90 gallon reef, with a pair of GS Maroon clowns.

Right now, they are in a LARGE BTA that sits dead center in the tank.

I have a pair of black percs in another tank.
I'd like to have them all in the 90.

My question is, if I were to move the LARGE BTA's rock to one end of the tank, and if the BTA were willing to stay there, and also get my RBTA to stay at the other end, do you think both pairs of clowns could exist together?
I know GS Maroon's are pretty aggressive, but figured I'd ask what everyone thought.

I'm not sure how much room it takes for 2 pairs of clowns.
Also, would more, or less LR help?
 
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The only way I see it working is if you had the Black Ocellaris hosting in a different species of anenome. If you put another BTA in there your female Maroon is going to smell it and beat the Ocellaris out of it so she can host in both.
 
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Even if they are @ opposite ends of the tank?

Ok, so since I'm a HUGE anenome fan, I could just let the RBTA stay right next to the other BTA like it is now and just get another anenome.

Do you think it could work then? I really want a carpet anenome but the last one I had didn't make it.
Lasted about 2 months.....
 
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Even if they are at the opposite ends of the tank an established female maroon is probally going try in enforce that the enitre tank is hers along with every BTA in it.

Ok, so since I'm a HUGE anenome fan, I could just let the RBTA stay right next to the other BTA like it is now and just get another anenome.
I think if you get another BTA the Maroons will want it too.

I really want a carpet anenome but the last one I had didn't make it.
Lasted about 2 months
Who do you expect to go in the carpet? Neither naturaly hosts in Haddonis.

I think you are trying to mix the wrong two species of clowns. Try the Ocellaris with Skunks or the Maroons with a Large pair of Saddles in a Carpet.
 
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I already have the RBTA, they host in both BTA's right now. Wasn't planning on getting another.

I tend to overlook the possibility that some clowns won't host in any anenome because I've had sebae, LTA, BTA, and a carpet and my maroons have hosted in all of them.

So do you think I need another pair of aggressive clowns to share the tank with the maroons?
 
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I tend to overlook the possibility that some clowns won't host in any anenome because I've had sebae, LTA, BTA, and a carpet and my maroons have hosted in all of them.

If they are host whores that seems to make things worse.

So do you think I need another pair of aggressive clowns to share the tank with the maroons?

I think the main problem is you are trying to add another pair to an already aggressive established pair. I really think if you are dead set on 2 pairs to try something with the Ocellaris. May be if you found a pair of saddle backs with a female much larger than your Maroon female it might work. Otherwise I think your female is going to freak out and go into attack mode at the first site of another female clown.
 
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That may be an option then, I can switch which tanks they are in if I can find a pair that will get along with the black ones.
 
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i remember toni at planet fish had a 150 gallon tank that was full of clowns and anemones. she told me that it was okay to have multiple clowns (maroons, tomatos, percula, ocellaris, clarkii are some of the ones i saw in there) in the same tank. the tank did have a lot of anemones in it to help. i'm thinking that it might be a different story with mated pairs, tho.

you could always call and ask or email her. tfreeman3@houston.rr.com (address from the sponsors page and business card).
 
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I'll let you guys be the judge of information that Toni gives. However you will not read one book or talk to anyone that knows anything in the clown forums that suggest mixing clown species in the same tank. The fact is that if done with some thought in a big tank you can get away with a couple of pairs. There is always a great chance though, that the happy balance that your multiple pairs of clowns have could go to amaragedon in one day. Some of you may think that you saw lots of clowns in the same tank for sale...Clarkii, Tomato, Ocellaris, ect and none of them were fighting. That is because they are all juveniles when the female clowns put on some ounces they'll start locking lips and taking down other females or males of different species in her territory.
 
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Another thread triggered my memory, I also had a Condy for a while that the maroons hosted in.

... and I just looked out my window to see my dog eating either her own, or my other dogs vomit.
just thought I'd share that..
 
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tcarlson, i agree. i was surprised as heck to see that tank. the thing that weirded me out even more was the fact that those weren't even juveniles in the tank. many of them were certainly females if not all of them (the gs maroon was easily 3.5-4", and a large tomato clown was in there too). ironically, i actually saw that tank when i was returning an ocellaris that my dad bought the weekend before 'cause i didn't want it in a tank with my gs maroon. we had them in a 120 gallon for half a day until i looked at the tank and got POed. the only reason there were no problems is that the maroon was fairly new to the tank as well.

fmb.. i'm no expert on what you can put together in a tank, but i wouldn't even try adding a mated pair of clowns to a tank that already has an established mated pair. if you were putting two pairs in a new tank at the same time, that might be a tiny bit different.. i doubt it tho.
 
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I agree with Tom.

[I have a multi pair tank]

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=401702&highlight=kris4647

The real key is the hosts and your ability to keep them alive and thriving.

You must have different types of hosts for different types of clowns. Period. I've tried it differently and it didnt work.

I have seen tanks in Orlando that had around twenty clowns in the tank with no anemones. (Mature clowns at that). SO I guess there is a possibility to pull that off if working with some types of clowns. But whats the point?...I LOVE clownfish and even to me it seems kinda pointless to keep clowns w/o hosts.

Point of fact...IME

Its not a good idea to have more than one pair in a tank. You can pull it off but do your research. Land a good host. Get it established and then go from there. An ideal combo, if you have the know how and lighting, is a Ritt at the top of the tank and a carpet at the btm. Maybe try to get the bubble to stay at the btm. Thats a stretch.......It works for me but I have more tank real estate than you.....

Good Luck
 
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