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madehtsobi

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hellooo

so im redoing my sump and have a question..

go with DSB SSB or BB?

what are the advantages/disadvantages to each?

im reading a whole bunch of mixed reviews and cant make up my mind either..

my DT has only like 1-2" crushed coral

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I have no sand (BB) and it's full of LR and running a MJ1200 in there for good circulation. I also use it to introduce new fish. Keep it in there for a week or two. It's a nice peaceful place. :)

Becareful using crushed coral larger particles in the display, over time detritus (food/poop) gets trapped and crashes the system. It could be years down the road.
 
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I went BB in the sump for easy cleaning. If I had a big tank I might cosider doing a separate DSB tank. Waiting to see how LPardue likes his DBS before doing something.
 

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I went BB in the sump for easy cleaning. If I had a big tank I might cosider doing a separate DSB tank. Waiting to see how LPardue likes his DBS before doing something.

I went BB for the same reason....actually I have mangroves in a pot and live rock stacked up with a MJ for water movement all in my skimmer chamber. My sump has a huge skimmer chamber and a 6 inch wide return section. I hated cleaning up crap from the sand bed in the sump.

Hmmm...

What are the sps guys using??

Since my tank now is pretty much sps dominant...need to know if BB will b good for lowering phos...

Sand holds all the crap if not cleaned regularly. BB is considered to be a "zero nutrient setup" in my DT I have tropic eden reef flakes.


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My new fuge (more like a second display tank) has mud. But I planned on lots of different macros and mangroves.
 

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I did a bunch of research on this question not too long ago. Basically, the answer depends on how much work you're willing to put into it and what your goals are.

A remote deep sand bed ("RDSB") is a great way to manage nutrients and also stimulate maximum microfauna growth. The trick is that you need ultra-super-very-fine-grained sand in order for it to work optimally. Think silt. You also need to activate the sand with some animals. I think a cup of refugium substrate from a few different fuges would work fine, but if you want to go all the way, Indo Pacific Sea Farms and Tampa Bay Saltwater both have products that would help. You actually need to have pretty aggressive flow above the RDSB as well, in order to provide oxygen to the sandbed. I have a Voyager 4 pushing water in a gyre flow pattern in my 45g refugium with RDSB. It requires careful powerhead positioning and securing the powerhead is important.\

A RDSB is also a potential phosphate sink, which means it absorbs phosphates until it's over-run; this takes many years and shouldn't really be an issue for people with a healthy DSB.

A BB refugium is ultra-low maintenance. It's fine for growing chaeto and mangroves. If you do this, don't forget to have a good powerhead in there - you want no detritus settling, just like with a BB tank.

A shallow sand bed ("SSB") is useful for providing a substrate as a habitat for pods and other microfauna. Doesn't give as much as a DSB, but mysids still like it. You'll want to clean/siphon the substrate every few months to remove detritus. This will work with mangroves. If you have chaeto in a SSB fuge, you may have an issue with dead rotting chaeto settling on the bottom. (I haven't found anything that eats this). Again, powerhead is important.

Hope this helps.
 
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