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Well, kind of. I have successfully breed my Bangaii cardinals, as of the 10th. I have a cardinal that has been holding eggs now for 3 days.

Getting off track a bit, but the funny part about it is on the 10th my wife gave birth to our first child. He was born at 6:35pm as a healthy 9.02lb baby boy measuring in at 21.5" long. Mommy and baby are both home and doing great.

Ok, now that I got the proud fatherly bragging out of the way lets get back on track.

I was told by a few people that what I was attempting would not be possible, but I guess I made the impossible possible. I started in Jan with a new tank build thanks to petco $1.00 per gallon sale. I purchased a 40b and a 20l. The 20l is the sump for my 40 breeder. I was told by many that I would not be able to keep the water quality high enough to keep the fish happy and well fed. I currently feed the fish at least 3 times a day or when ever I walk past them. As of today the tank is cycled with 5 mated/breeding pairs of fish (one of which holding eggs) in less then 4 months. I have been able to keep all my numbers at 0.00 except for my nitrate which is less then 10.

The tank set up is vary easy, I have the 40b on top which is split into 4 equally spaced dividers giving me 5 compartments. The 40b is also drilled using the class holes over flow kit which was much easier then expected. The 40b then drains into the 20l, which is split into 4 sections. 1st is where I have my filter pad, 2nd is filled with live rock (about 60lbs) and a little live sand, 3rd has a protein skimmer and 4th is for the return pump. Its a tight sump but so far I have been able to keep pretty good water quality.

As for my stock. I have two pairs bangaii cardinals, that I paired my self, I have one pair of pearl eyed ORA clarkiis, one pair of true percs and finally one pair of black/white clowns. I did not expect to have any of the clowns breed at this point because they tent to take a little longer to get comfortable and on top of that my clarkiis are still vary young. But I am vary excited about my cardinals because they prove that it can be done and secondly that my water quality is good enough to make the fish happy and thriving.

Now for the bad news. If everything goes well and the father is able to hold the eggs full term I don't think they will make it. Me and my wife will be flying to Florida at the end of the month so show off our new baby to the rest of the family that couldn't make it out to TX. So with that being said I'm sure they will make a great snack to the other cardinals or the clowns.

I will keep this thread updated as time goes on, but as stated earlier I don't expect any of these guys to make it to market size.
 

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Congrats on the birth of your first child and your fish fry children lol. Cant wait to see some pics
 

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Congrats! If your cardinal does release the babies before you leave you might consider asking if anyone that is doing breeding here on Marsh might be interested in raising them.
 

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Congrats.

I have to restart my bangaii project too because they got wiped out when I had clownfish disease last month.
 
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Congrats! If your cardinal does release the babies before you leave you might consider asking if anyone that is doing breeding here on Marsh might be interested in raising them.

You are right, I have thought of that as well and if I am around I will make a post regarding that. Mike13oy was one of the few people that supported the idea of having 40/20 tank and sump. The only thing that he cautioned me with was to make sure to do a lot of water changes to keep the water quality high. So I have done just that. I do two 20% water changes a month and that seems to keep things nice and stable.

So if he is interested in raising them I will give him first dips, The only thing I may ask for in return is just some basic coaching on raising the fry. So Mike if you get this message and if you are interested let me know, or I will PM you as time gets closer.
 
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Sure and Thank You. :)
just give me a pm when the male releases babies and i will pick the up.

We will have to see as time goes on, but as long as he drops the fry before we head out then you are more then welcome to them. I will also give your 3 or 4 gallons of my tank water so that it will be an easier transition.
 
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Well, my male cardinal spit out the eggs, so they were not held full term. The only thing I can guess is that he may not have had enough food in the day or weeks before he started holding the eggs. The only other thing that may have been against him is that it was his and her first batch of eggs. So its possible that they just didn't know what they were doing. I guess in a way its a good thing since I'm taking a little vacation soon anyway. but does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to help him hold the eggs longer.
 

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I have read that they can be difficult in that manner. I think the main reasons are food, environment, age.

If they are fertilized you should be able to collect them and put them in an egg tumbler. IRRC in some cases they force him to spit the eggs out and then put them in an egg tumbler. So you might investigate that.
 
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