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what are you wanting to keep in the tank?
mainly sps as far as coral goes....i would also like a small achilles, purple tang, clown fish pair, lawnmower blenny, and a school of anthias probably going to try the anthias ventralis, flame wrasse pair, and maybe a cheveron.....
Raymond
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thats going to be a packed tank IMO
i agree but it fits the space in the apartment the best but i might go a little bigger if i can convince the wife....i prob wont aquire all of these but these are on the top of my list...i'm probably going to have two tangs, clowns, lawnmower, and either a single anthia or a few of a smaller species
G
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Be careful about making it 30" high. You may not be able to reach the bottom. I cant barely reach the bottom of my 24" without getting my shoulder wet.
tas5tas
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It's really not going to be long enough to keep any tangs. They like to swim long distances. The purple tang would definately not be a good choice because they are very territorial and agressive. If you have the room I would go 60x24x24 or 60x30x24, at those dimensions you could keep 1 or 2 tangs until they grow to around 4-6". Tangs benefit from having long tanks like 72", 84" and 96" respectively. It helps to cut down on territorial issues and stress.
cstewart79
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I would also be careful on the depth of the tank. With my 24" deep tank I can barely touch the bottom and I can not reach the back of the tank. This is on a step stool and I am 6'3" with really long arms.
Tank dims: 96L x 30H x 24W
I have a Vlamingii, kole, sailfin, PURPLE, 5 yellows, 2 scopas and 3 hippos. None of the tangs give me any trouble, even the purple, becase they have to be introduced properly and into a properly designed tank for them. The only rule of thumb for purple tangs I have not personally disproven is that if you want multiples you have to go three or more because they do no do well in pairs. I have had between three and five at any given time but never a pair. Tas5tas was right about them liking more swimming room so 3' is kind of limited for your tangs, but none of the ones you mentioned get that big (at least not in a home aquarium).
As far as stocking goes, from what I've seen, if you want an SPS dominant tank you really need to limit your fish selection. They put off alot of waste so unless you're skimming the heck out of your tank, running carbon, a phosban reactor and you're religious about your water changes you probably want to stick with three or four small fishes for a tank that size. That's just my opinion but you can check with some of the other guys who run SPS only and see what they say.
As far as dimensions go those are great dimensions but you might have a problem reaching the middle. From the top center of any panel to the middle of the bottom of the tank you are looking at 2'-1.5", even more if you're trying to reach it from a corner. Unless you plan on doing a very deep sand bed I wouldn't go more than 24" because reaching the bottom becomes a limiting factor, and you're just not that tall Allen.
I have a Vlamingii, kole, sailfin, PURPLE, 5 yellows, 2 scopas and 3 hippos. None of the tangs give me any trouble, even the purple, becase they have to be introduced properly and into a properly designed tank for them. The only rule of thumb for purple tangs I have not personally disproven is that if you want multiples you have to go three or more because they do no do well in pairs. I have had between three and five at any given time but never a pair. Tas5tas was right about them liking more swimming room so 3' is kind of limited for your tangs, but none of the ones you mentioned get that big (at least not in a home aquarium).
As far as stocking goes, from what I've seen, if you want an SPS dominant tank you really need to limit your fish selection. They put off alot of waste so unless you're skimming the heck out of your tank, running carbon, a phosban reactor and you're religious about your water changes you probably want to stick with three or four small fishes for a tank that size. That's just my opinion but you can check with some of the other guys who run SPS only and see what they say.
As far as dimensions go those are great dimensions but you might have a problem reaching the middle. From the top center of any panel to the middle of the bottom of the tank you are looking at 2'-1.5", even more if you're trying to reach it from a corner. Unless you plan on doing a very deep sand bed I wouldn't go more than 24" because reaching the bottom becomes a limiting factor, and you're just not that tall Allen.
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gadus1 said:
I like this list much better, do not get an archillies or powder blue with this size tank unless your planning on upgrading 3 foot is not nearly enough swimming room.
I would forgo the added height and look at getting something a bit wider and more cube like. What about 48 X 36 X 24? That could offer alot more in depth stocking possibilities including a small school of anthias.
AquaNerd
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you'd be surprised at what kind of conditions sps can thrive in. i've seen packed tanks (fishwise) and bare tanks (again fish wise) and in both the sps corals thrived. heck, when i was in the process of upgrading and moving over, my 90 which i left in galveston ran without a water change for two months and without a skimmer for about a month. my glass looked like crap (covered in diatoms, etc) but i noticed some huge growth in my montis to be specific. all the colors looked awesome too. it shocked me actually. i know my tank was hurting at the time, but when things don't go according to plan there's not a lot you can do. i guess that prodibio was doing it's job well since i was at least still dosing it to reduce my nutrients to some extent.
but, the lower the nutrients the better. and obviously with a large fish load, you'll need a good way to rid yourself of excess nitrate and phosphate...since those two are huge in sps keeping when it comes to color and growth. a good skimmer, loaded refugium, and dosing prodibio bioptim and biodigest will do the job.
i say, and many might think this bad advice, but go with the fish you want. like i said, i've seen beautiful sps dominated tanks full of fish. my 90 had a large bioload and i was happy with my growth and color i had. i do agree with the concern over swimming length for the tangs. if you want to go with a few tangs, get them as small as possible and upgrade in a few years.
but, the lower the nutrients the better. and obviously with a large fish load, you'll need a good way to rid yourself of excess nitrate and phosphate...since those two are huge in sps keeping when it comes to color and growth. a good skimmer, loaded refugium, and dosing prodibio bioptim and biodigest will do the job.
i say, and many might think this bad advice, but go with the fish you want. like i said, i've seen beautiful sps dominated tanks full of fish. my 90 had a large bioload and i was happy with my growth and color i had. i do agree with the concern over swimming length for the tangs. if you want to go with a few tangs, get them as small as possible and upgrade in a few years.
