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So, I am beginning to have some algae show up in the 40.

I am feeding every other day with rods, or Larry's, or occasionally rinsed mysis, the wife is buying some nori today for the tang. I hoped he would graze on the HA but no luck.

I have a mandarin, two clowns, and a yellow tang (I know, I know, I get it, ok, back on topic).

I have probably ten red and blue hermits and a couple snails.

I have been running gfo for weeks now and have not seen it help with the algae. I picked up some chaeto from a fellow member and tossed it into the sump, and BAM!!! The tiny speck of hair algae I had started growing like crazy. I pulled the trumpets it was growing on and manually removed the HA, but some thin amounts is still on the rocks.

I have been running the sump light on an opposite schedule of the tank light.

My skimmer has been pulling very dark almost coffee colored skim for a couple weeks...I just set it to skim a little wetter.

I change about 5 gallons per week, and vac the shallow sand bed every time. I have a crushed coral sand bed.

My API test kit shows less than .25 phosphate, and almost zero if not zero on nitrate.

With all of that said.....I have been looking into dosing vodka or adding bio pellets and possibly removing the cheato.

Please give your opinion and experience. I am leaning heavily to trying the vodka dosing.

I hate algae.
 
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Did the chaeto break down (shrink)? If so whatever it had in its tissue was released in your water and presumably fed the HA.

Without nitrates vodka/vinegar dosing won't work. The bacteria need both nitrate and phosphate to do their job. That being said the fact that you have HA growing but show 0 for nitrates may just mean that nitrates are being consumed as fast as they are being produced in the tank.

When I did pellets and vodka/vinegar dosing I still had to run GFO.
 

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i had some cyano develop recently, a small patch. started noticing that the top 2" on chaeto in the sump was dieing. Trimmed off the top 3 inches of dieing chaeto, and within 2 days, my cyano is regressing. My chaeto looks good again. sounds alot like what everyone here was mentioning. The chaeto does great, until it starts to die, then releases all the phosphates back in to the water.

Guess I need to get on the ball with chaeto maintenance.
 
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Hmmm....

Andy gave me a rather decent sized amount of cheato. Maybe I need to trim it down/thin it out. Maybe it is dying off and adding nutrients back in...
 

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Keep it trimmed. Cheato also provides a good place for pods to reproduce.

With that much PO4 I would say your GFO is exhausted. If you get 0, or close to 0 PO4, then the algea should go away.
 
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Are you using R/O water? Run thru DI?

Yes sir. 0 TDS.

I will trim it tonight and see if it helps.

I have had the gfo in for a month I think, I'll check my notes when I get home..., so it may be spent...I'll change it too.
 

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I'm bad about doing this, but when you siphon water out for water change, suck the rocks, you will be amazed at how much crap gets into the holes in the rocks.

You can also use a turkey baster to blast them but that just puts crap in the water column.

How long has tank been set up?
 
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This is normal for a new tank.


Hair Algae is normal? I have already been through my bloom and all of the diatoms cleared up without an issue. My daughters 7 gallon nano has been up almost as long and it has ZERO Hair Algae.

If it is normal....should I just wait it out? I kind of feel like its Cancer and if i dont eradicate it as soon as possible, then it will take over.....lol
 
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I am having a bit of brown algae growth. My long spine seems to like eating this stuff but not enough is being consumed. Would a small vodka or vinegar dosing help me out. I am running 3 big power heads with one being attached to an under gravel. JIm
 

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Stay on top of it. Water change gfo,
Clean up crew, manually take it out.
 
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Stay on top of it. Water change gfo,
Clean up crew, manually take it out.


yes sir. I really think the issue is that my gfo was spent.

i did a water change yesterday(weekly), changed the gfo today, changed the filter sock today, emptied the skimmer and cleaned the cup and neck as well as setting it a little wetter, i manually removed all hair algae i could yesterday, and i have changed my light intensity and duration to try and limit the algae growth.

hopefully, this will knock it all out and I wont need the vodka or biopellets or whatever...
 

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Andy mentioned most of the things you can do at first.
Stay on top of it, clean filter socks every three days and keep the neck clean of the skimmer for a high skim process
There's one more easy thing you can do for HA, raise you Mag slowly to about 1600 or a bit higher.
Just watch your corals when you do this.
Let us know how the process went in it's total.
 
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