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Does anyone here run any type of whole house filtration other than water softeners? The water in my subdivision has a lot of sediment in it, clay I think. We ran sediment filters on the washer last time we lived here to keep our cloths from turning orange. I have burned through a sediment filter on my RODI already. I am thinking of installing a whole house sediment filter. Anyone run one? Recommendations?

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You must be out in Cypress with Reeftopia! Hehe :tongue1:

Nothing be Cows, Clay, and Coral out there with the occasional Sasquatch! :tea:

Reeftopia would consider Cypress "downtown". He lives farther than that out in the woods.
 
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Hi Wazzel - apart from the gazillion RODI systems and filters we've sold into the reefing community over the last 20 years, we also work with non-reefing homeowners and businesses to solve water quality issues. We've diagnosed and solved these riddles all over the contiguous 48 states, as well as in places like Romania, Colombia, Moscow, Hawaii, China, and Alaska. Feel free to give us a call if you'd like help.

Without any site specific info, the fact you mentioned your filters are turning orange makes me wonder if you're dealing with an iron issue, rather than sediment.

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Hi Wazzel - apart from the gazillion RODI systems and filters we've sold into the reefing community over the last 20 years, we also work with non-reefing homeowners and businesses to solve water quality issues. We've diagnosed and solved these riddles all over the contiguous 48 states, as well as in places like Romania, Colombia, Moscow, Hawaii, China, and Alaska. Feel free to give us a call if you'd like help.

Without any site specific info, the fact you mentioned your filters are turning orange makes me wonder if you're dealing with an iron issue, rather than sediment.

Russ

It could be. We lived in the same subdivision before and had the same problem. We put sediment filters on the washer and that saved out cloths from turning orange slowly over time. I still have the housings and if I do not get a whole house system soon I will put those back in service.

Do you sell high temp sediment filters?

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yep.

Iron comes in two forms in drinking water.
Ferric iron is the UNdissolved chunks/flaks/specs you might see floating in your glass
Ferrous iron is invisible, as it is dissolved. When you aerate/agitate water (go from laminar to turbulent flow) like what happens at the surface of a sediment filter, you can cause some of that dissolved iron to come out of solution - it can then be captured by a sediment filter.

What is the name of your town and water utility? I can look up your water quality report and see what they say about iron. Or are you on a residential well?

FYI - working softeners trap sediment, and can also treat low levels of iron.

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I'm in the Cypress Creek area 77433. Didn't have any issues with the water, but recently installed a water softener because the wife wanted one. While that was being done, I went ahead and added a whole house sediment filter at the main water entry point. It's amazing how much that sediment filter catches because I can see it in the clear container. Makes me wonder IF we didn't have it, where all that crap would have gone. I then plumbed my RODI right next to the units, so I have a giant prefilter.

https://www.amazon.com/Culligan-WH-...2080&sr=8-5&keywords=whole+house+water+filter

I'm considering adding a 2nd but using it for carbon. I don't think I need it, but it's one of those "let's over engineer". =) I researched including YouTube for videos and that's where I found the Culligan. It has 1 inch inlets.
 
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That sediment would have been caught, for the most part, by your softener - and then sent down the drain when the softener regenerates, probably about once per week.

I'd advise against installing a whole house carbon block. Why?
1. That housing takes a 10" x 4.5" (nominal) filter. That size carbon block is typically rated at a flow of about 3.5 gpm. A typical home has flows double to triple that. Meaning you'll push water through the filter faster than it can do it's intended job.
2. Chlorine or chloramines are put in the potable water for a reason - they are disinfectants. Best not to remove them with a POE filter - use a properly sized POU filter instead.

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Sorry for the jargon!

POE=Point of Entry. Usually larger equipment designed to treat higher flows. Treats the water where it enters the building.
POU=Point of Use. 99% of the RODI units used in this hobby are POU devices - they treat the water where it is going to be used - usually with just one, or a few outlets for the treated water. Typically designed to treat slower flows.

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Ahh. thanks for clearing up the nerd-water speak. lol. jk.

That's good advice on the chlorine and chloramines . I went with the sediment prefilter with expectations of prolonging the resin in the softener recognizing that some of it would get flushed out with the refresh cycle. One of those why-not things.

I did just add a giant inline-filter before the refrigerator line since I was in a water quality tweaking mode. I guess this is what is known as POU. =) It's great! I notice it in the clearness of melted ice and I don't need to change the frig filter as often. Never had RODI issues beforehand even with a simple RODI buddy, but again ...why-not. Thanks for the advice on the carbon block - will pass.
 
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In my house I fed the refrigerator with dechlorinated, full line pressure water. I tapped into my RODI system with a tee right after the prefilters.

PREFILTER=any filter that touches the water prior to the RO membrane.

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In my house I fed the refrigerator with dechlorinated, full line pressure water. I tapped into my RODI system with a tee right after the prefilters.

PREFILTER=any filter that touches the water prior to the RO membrane.

Russ
Russ, curious why you would do it after prefilters instead of after the RO membrane. Not questioning... Just curious what you know that I don't know. Lol
 
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Wanted the water at the refig to have improved taste relative to tap water, so at a minimum needed to get the chlorine out.

But also wanted full line pressure (at my house, that's 65 psi) to the refig. A full pressure tank would deliver at most 2/3rds of that, unless I went with a permeate pump and high pressure ASOV.

But you know the old story about the potter's kids not having any shoes... :)
 

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Wanted the water at the refig to have improved taste relative to tap water, so at a minimum needed to get the chlorine out.

But also wanted full line pressure (at my house, that's 65 psi) to the refig. A full pressure tank would deliver at most 2/3rds of that, unless I went with a permeate pump and high pressure ASOV.

But you know the old story about the potter's kids not having any shoes... :)

Ah, makes sense. I wasn't really happy with my pressure tank setup since the water came out too slow. Is it that more advantageous to run it through the membrane? Or me doing that same as you just as good? I mean, prefilters will kick the pants off the cheap fridge filters any day I assume.
 
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