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Tangs
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YA that stuff is highly recommended ..... I used it for something years ago I forget what but I remember having great results.
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As I said earlier if you do not have invertebrates or corals you might want to look into reducing your salinity. Fish can thrive in .20 salinity I have been to awesome coral reef stores and they swear by it... cuts down on viruses and unwanted bacteria.
quick question the fish that have died are all cardinals and they all eat sand can that be it like they nom on the sand all day and is that why they are dead?the middle of the body floats up is that just the breakdown of gases or could it be a sign
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Well if you are putting chemicals in the water some of it might go into the sand as well. I am not familure to what you have as a disease. high temp and low salinity is what I would be doing for a marine fish only aquarium. For better success in marine fish keeping you might want to consider finding a bigger tank. I have never had Cardinals fish or bird
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One of my mixed reef systems hits about 84 during the day in the summer time. Everything cruises along, no problem. I would put 84 as the upper limit. Past that, it gets nasty.
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I agree but when giving advice I give extra caution.
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huh?
The amount of fish you have lost that came from a stable system tells me there's more at play here than you realize.
Either way, .1 or .01 is not good for the tank. Perhaps it took you a bit of time to find the dead fish and that spiked the ammonia. Since you have so many problems with your tanks thus far, I think you have to get back to basics. Not sure what your stock list is right now, but I really want to suggest starting fresh from scratch. Bleach (or acid) all your LR. Get all new sand, and a starter kit of bacteria. Any fish you may have should go into a QT system with Copper or CP while you "start up" this tank.
Remember to start slow in this hobby and don't rush into things. Good things happen slow, bad things happen immediately. This hobby isn't fun when you have constant death and diseases on your hand. It really pays to go slow and methodical.
Either way, .1 or .01 is not good for the tank. Perhaps it took you a bit of time to find the dead fish and that spiked the ammonia. Since you have so many problems with your tanks thus far, I think you have to get back to basics. Not sure what your stock list is right now, but I really want to suggest starting fresh from scratch. Bleach (or acid) all your LR. Get all new sand, and a starter kit of bacteria. Any fish you may have should go into a QT system with Copper or CP while you "start up" this tank.
Remember to start slow in this hobby and don't rush into things. Good things happen slow, bad things happen immediately. This hobby isn't fun when you have constant death and diseases on your hand. It really pays to go slow and methodical.
I'd also be happy to give you a few of my Marine Pure balls / Chaeto from my DT which I am 99% confident is clean. All fish went through QT and are disease free. The only possibility of bad things in my tank is Aiptasia, but if you read my build threads and my other thread I am trying to minimize that risk as much as possible.
well i got these guys with an eye infection the system was stable for months i treated for it till it was gone but all the other test came out good and after treatment im seeing good improvement on the clown and the cardinal is not dead
and thanks but no im still building system part i was planning on getting a good light but now im buying a uv light for the tank and thats going to take some weeks to get a good one
i have a fish only light was planning on getting a t5 setup working
i have a fish only light was planning on getting a t5 setup working
What are you getting a UV light for? Are you sure the cardinals had an eye infection when they came in?
and i get what you mean by taking shortcuts or moving too fast that has happened to me and ive been learning i tried copper to get rid of ich faster and cheaper and it cost me dearly i rushed to reset up a tank and that killed 2 fish and since than i have killed some shrimp. ive waited till my tank was stable for a couple of months till i got new fish and tested the tank, the reason the ammonium went up is that i came to my tank at midnight to see 2 dead fish and another died that night and it was ONLY the cardinals with the sudden death, the clownfish has something and im treating for everything and that going well. the uv light will not stop anything going on now, but it can slow down this stuff if it happens again in the future
also, i name them and give them titles and get attached so i really like them and since the last one is no longer in a school ,the name he will get if he survives the week is going to be Leningrad (siege of Leningrad for reference) and trust me the guilt alone is reason enough to do my best
also, i name them and give them titles and get attached so i really like them and since the last one is no longer in a school ,the name he will get if he survives the week is going to be Leningrad (siege of Leningrad for reference) and trust me the guilt alone is reason enough to do my best
So a few things to consider about UV. I'm pretty sure it'd only help against a parasite infection (so ich, etc). The bulb also needs to be replaced every 6 months, or it won't be very effective.
Personally I used to use one to help fight Ich (at least minimize it) until one day it shorted and zapped all the stuff in the tank. It killed several invert's but the fish survived. Some corals were lost. I highly suggest using a grounding rod in aquariums because of this.
I'm not trying to say you are doing a bad job or anything. You are trying and learning which is what we all do. I just know you lost a lot of shrimp over the time (likely from the copper) and with these additional fish losses I was just saying to be cautious. The two deaths will cause an ammonia spike. Just continue to monitor all the tank parameters. I would really really advise you to pick up a QT. For when there are issues you can pull the fish out and treat the fish easily. People give away tanks on FB Marketplace, Craigslist, Marsh, etc. Pick up a small 10g and you'll be set.
Personally I used to use one to help fight Ich (at least minimize it) until one day it shorted and zapped all the stuff in the tank. It killed several invert's but the fish survived. Some corals were lost. I highly suggest using a grounding rod in aquariums because of this.
I'm not trying to say you are doing a bad job or anything. You are trying and learning which is what we all do. I just know you lost a lot of shrimp over the time (likely from the copper) and with these additional fish losses I was just saying to be cautious. The two deaths will cause an ammonia spike. Just continue to monitor all the tank parameters. I would really really advise you to pick up a QT. For when there are issues you can pull the fish out and treat the fish easily. People give away tanks on FB Marketplace, Craigslist, Marsh, etc. Pick up a small 10g and you'll be set.
anouther fish just died had no marks even after death all other heavy breting on going to bottem of tank i think its not related but could be i just did a 7.5 gallong water change and added some baing soida to fix ph issue but all other test dont indecate a tank faluire but going to buy new test kit tomarrow just to be sure and im setting up the quartine which will take about 3 hours to warm up and ttest
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That is too much effort for couple cardinals. If it were me, I d rather rest and less worry about them. This suppose to be a hobby not a stress factor so if they die that s part of a nature, pick them up and throw them away then move on.
There was a saying I remember.
Aquariums reduce the stress within a household by 20%, but the aquarium's keeper has about 100% more stress.
Something along those lines...
