I don’t communicate like this. Have a good day.
-
Welcome back Guest!MARSH is a private reefing group. Comments and suggestions are encouraged, but please keep them positive and constructive. Negative threads, posts, or attacks will be removed from view and reviewed by the staff. Continually disruptive, argumentative, or flagrant rule breakers may be suspended or banned.
Icp water tests (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter decimal
- Start date
- Tagged users None
Users who are viewing this thread
- Status
mitchell77546
Supporting Member
Lol your comments nothing less than inflammatory. If you can’t take the heat… I’ll do me you do you. I know this much, I’ve had my successes and failures with reefing and no icp test could stop any of those failures other than the fact that icp analysis screwed me with their BS analysis. My philosophy is if it isn’t broken don’t fix it. Maybe if I did everything andre told me to do I would have the greatest reef ever. This is a farce, moonshiners is a great program. If anyone wants to follow it to the letter more power to you. I have seen some amazing reefs and a lot of their successes come for the program but there is more to it than that. Reef on friends and good luck with your tanks.
OP
OP
Ok well. Let’s not get carried away and return to main subject of this thread. The Oceamo test I used (through MS) was the more expensive one. I think it was $65 or thereabouts. There is a less expensive one (don’t know the difference and I will use the less expensive one next time) runs @ $45. At that price it’s definitely competitive with ATI etc.
The OCEAMO OES is $44.95 and The MS is $64.95. However, there is a $17 shipping fee and tax. I think the shipping is high because of customs. The price sounds high, but it took a long time to work out this deal. Actually forever! Nobody else offers it here. Andre isn’t making any money on it really. They are shipped to you from Andre in Houston. You collect the sample and ship back to him at his post office box. Then they take a flight to Austria on Monday and Friday evenings. Best time to ship is 1-2 days before. I usually drop mine early Sunday morning, and it delivers the next day to his mailbox by 11am-12pm, but sometimes they mess it up and it doesn’t deliver on Monday and it takes the Friday flight. The best time to ship might be on Wednesday or Saturday. The water is filtered with a Chromafil Xtra PET-20/25 0.20 um filter to reduce microbial activity in the sample, and there is a nutrient stabilizer that goes into the blue cap vial which basically freezes any microbial activity (nutrient vial), so I don’t worry too much about the extra wait time. Average Turnaround time is about 6-9 days. He will also be shipping on Wednesdays soon.
Mic drop…looks like I’m fixing to overtake somebody’s 3 year old system soon. Keep sending that Triton.
Reef Labs sent the results back really quick in my opinion. My wife and I went out of town the same day they received my sample and the next morning i woke up i had an email with my results. They got right on it. which really means a lot to me. Cause i need all the help i can get! lol
Great to hear I have coral wars on the way... Did not know that! lol First time having monti's. If they get too mean
Great, now I have coral wars to look forward to... They get too mean Ill turn that rock upside down and start over! lol
Mic drop….
1 year ago…all 1-2” frags.
1 year ago…all 1-2” frags.
mitchell77546
Supporting Member
Mic drop…looks like I’m fixing to overtake somebody’s 3 year old system soon. Keep sending that Triton.
Montis look great but will kill other sps in its path. They grow too fast
mitchell77546
Supporting Member
This very true. I have lost entire colonies of sps. I wish I had never put Moni's in my tank. They provide a beautiful backdrop but they will overcome just about any sps. I'm about to move a grape juice colony because of my fruity pebbles monti. As you can see in my photos it has taken over the tank. Also when cutting be careful of the fragments. The stuff will take root just about any where and even in lower lighting.
Cody
Vice President
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Content Moderator
Board Member
Supporting Member
Out of curiosity, do you have a current full tank shot?Mic drop….
1 year ago…all 1-2” frags.
Cody
Vice President
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Content Moderator
Board Member
Supporting Member
And as a local Houston business, it would be very nice if you supported your local non-profit club ;-)Dude, look at this beautiful Bottle logo !!!
This is a local Houston business ;-)
Fixing to do an update, because everybody keeps asking. I want to get my PAR back up so that the corals can look their best and have the most color pop and health. Darn Dino’s are devastating to any system. Glad to be done with them. Never use Marco Dry rock.
There were some immaculate reef tanks 20 years ago if you just look at reefcentral tank of the month archives…there was no ICP test back then…some of this testing stuff is just waste of time/$$$ I feel like.
Do what makes you happy. I’m a junkie, so I see things through a different lense.
I just try to share information.
Last edited:
OP
OP
I think part of the challenge is that while we did have some pretty amazing systems/tanks even 20 years ago, it required discipline and a lot of work to stick to a strict regiment of water changes and so on. Now it can be done just by adding a few drop of this and a few drops of that. Some of that can automated so it really puts a super tank into reach for a lot of folks that would normally fail or at least be less successful.
Well, you don’t really just share information do you? The main theme to your “sharing” is that your ways and methods are superior to everyone else. That may or may not correct but setting it up so there will be a winner and a loser (mine grows faster/better than yours) is not sharing information. It’s antagonistic a little offensive and calling it “sharing” is misleading. That all has very little to do with corals of course. The pics you posted are undeniably amazing. It just seems that the subject of the conversations becomes irrelevant due to incendiary comments and flaming people. Just my opinion of course so..
Well, you don’t really just share information do you? The main theme to your “sharing” is that your ways and methods are superior to everyone else. That may or may not correct but setting it up so there will be a winner and a loser (mine grows faster/better than yours) is not sharing information. It’s antagonistic a little offensive and calling it “sharing” is misleading. That all has very little to do with corals of course. The pics you posted are undeniably amazing. It just seems that the subject of the conversations becomes irrelevant due to incendiary comments and flaming people. Just my opinion of course so..
Last edited:
mitchell77546
Supporting Member
Exactly my point
OP
OP
So it looks like some folks are not convinced of icp tests and their usefulness. I think it’s a pretty useful tool that has been used to bring a greater understanding of reef water chemistry resulting in some really nice tanks and an increased accessibility to normal people that would have left the hobby after a failed tank. Not saying it’s easy, but it’s another tool in the toolbox. I, for my part, will stick with the Oceamo tests for now.
- Status
