TMP Salt- Stop using it immediately. (1 Viewer)

[soymilk]

any tips on slicing and dicing anemones

 

[mittens]

any tips on slicing and dicing anemones

Don’t cut your own fingers doing so.

 

[Cody]

any tips on slicing and dicing anemones

I wink at mine and they split themselves

 

[mittens]

I wink at mine and they split themselves

So they got stressed and went into survival mode is what you’re saying

 

[Cody]

So they got stressed and went into survival mode is what you’re saying

A win is a win

 

[oguzman]

Make your own wealth. I spent a lot of $ on TMP to get here.

So free nems?

 

[mittens]

Buy one and propagate it for 2 yrs

 

[Seaworthy Aquatics]

Tropic Marine admitted yesterday the salt is tainted FYI. While they won't admit it's toxic yet, this is the statement from their Facebook page.

"Statement on current supply of Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt from our Turkish production facility.
Tropic Marin stands for the highest quality in seawater animal husbandry. Regrettably, in the last few days we have received several complaints that some of our Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt, produced in our Turkish facility, did not meet our exacting optical standards. Our investigation into these complaints has revealed that limited batches of Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt may contain a small amount of an insoluble clay mineral impurity that may impact our exacting optical quality standards, resulting in cloudiness, film and/or yellowish or brownish residue in the water.
Importantly, we have no evidence that these insoluble clay minerals, causing the cloudiness, are harmful to the animals. Please note that this notice only applies to Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt blended in our facility in Turkey and that the mineral impurity has not been observed in Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt produced in our German facilities or in any of our other products.
In addition to our own investigations, we have commissioned an in-depth analysis from an external laboratory to verify our findings. As a precautionary measure, we have decided to interrupt the production and distribution of Tropic Marin Pro-Reef salts, blended in our facility in Turkey, until further notice. Again, this is purely a precautionary measure and has no impact on Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt produced elsewhere.
We deeply regret any inconvenience this has caused.
Your Tropic Marin team"

The statement only made everything worse in my eyes, as they lie in the first couple sentences. These complaints have been going on for about a year iirc, not "a few days". I'm just one place, but I must confirm the same issues with this salt. You can see and smell a difference in the salt, both before and after mixing. It clumps together in strange ways in the bucket, almost like a wet sand or paste at times, and far off from the usual fine powder. After mixing it will turn the mixing containers brown and can have a yellowish tint to it, often unnoticeable in the mixing can but you can see it in a clear glass and does not mix as clear besides, and indeed smells like old urine or sometimes moldy. I've seen the issue randomly in both turkish and german buckets and I'm pretty convinced they cheaped out on one of their major materials at the height of the pandemic/supply chain issues and it has been used at both factories, just more so at the turkish plant. Either that or they have been relabeling the turkish salt. Though I would say it's rare, maybe 1 in 10 buckets, I won't be buying for the time being and all they did was solidify my decision as I can no longer trust it.

 

[Reefahholic]

Tropic Marine admitted yesterday the salt is tainted FYI. While they won't admit it's toxic yet, this is the statement from their Facebook page.

"Statement on current supply of Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt from our Turkish production facility.
Tropic Marin stands for the highest quality in seawater animal husbandry. Regrettably, in the last few days we have received several complaints that some of our Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt, produced in our Turkish facility, did not meet our exacting optical standards. Our investigation into these complaints has revealed that limited batches of Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt may contain a small amount of an insoluble clay mineral impurity that may impact our exacting optical quality standards, resulting in cloudiness, film and/or yellowish or brownish residue in the water.
Importantly, we have no evidence that these insoluble clay minerals, causing the cloudiness, are harmful to the animals. Please note that this notice only applies to Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt blended in our facility in Turkey and that the mineral impurity has not been observed in Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt produced in our German facilities or in any of our other products.
In addition to our own investigations, we have commissioned an in-depth analysis from an external laboratory to verify our findings. As a precautionary measure, we have decided to interrupt the production and distribution of Tropic Marin Pro-Reef salts, blended in our facility in Turkey, until further notice. Again, this is purely a precautionary measure and has no impact on Tropic Marin Pro-Reef sea salt produced elsewhere.
We deeply regret any inconvenience this has caused.
Your Tropic Marin team"

The statement only made everything worse in my eyes, as they lie in the first couple sentences. These complaints have been going on for about a year iirc, not "a few days". I'm just one place, but I must confirm the same issues with this salt. You can see and smell a difference in the salt, both before and after mixing. It clumps together in strange ways in the bucket, almost like a wet sand or paste at times, and far off from the usual fine powder. After mixing it will turn the mixing containers brown and can have a yellowish tint to it, often unnoticeable in the mixing can but you can see it in a clear glass and does not mix as clear besides, and indeed smells like old urine or sometimes moldy. I've seen the issue randomly in both turkish and german buckets and I'm pretty convinced they cheaped out on one of their major materials at the height of the pandemic/supply chain issues and it has been used at both factories, just more so at the turkish plant. Either that or they have been relabeling the turkish salt. Though I would say it's rare, maybe 1 in 10 buckets, I won't be buying for the time being and all they did was solidify my decision as I can no longer trust it.

I think you are pretty spot on. Can’t wait to see what it actually is.

 

[Stickboy97]

Man read all this and got scared…. Luckily both my buckets are from germany.

 

[mittens]

Man read all this and got scared…. Luckily both my buckets are from germany.

Luckily all my buckets were from Germany.

 

[mittens]

Now what? I like tmp params and consistency with the exception of low Alk. I keep my Alk at 8.5ish so now idk what to use…

 

[soymilk]

red sea blue bucket?

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[Bullitt519]

When I was working In Mississippi I spoke with the director of the Mississippi Aquarium. He said they did a lot of research on different salts in a lab setting and found Red Sea to have the better salt. They switched and are now using it primarily in the facility. I have always used instant ocean and have never had any issues in the 20 years I’ve used it. If I was going to try a new salt I would probably just try the Red Sea.

 

[soymilk]

red sea requires you to use it after 24 hours of mixing

I like to premix 30-40 gallons and have it on hand at all times. IO is more stable and cheaper to boot. IO and TMP were really the only ones that were safe to mix and store for long periods. If TMP is out, then its IO all the way now.

 

[BigRick]

Telling you guys don't yall remember last year when they had a warehouse full of stored old ww2 explosoves that blew up in the port? Took out a bunch of buildings. Rocked the city hard. I gaurentee its related.

 

[soymilk]

i remember the one you're talking about

oof... i tried googling turkey and blast, and there are way too many different ones.

 

[Reefahholic]

When I was working In Mississippi I spoke with the director of the Mississippi Aquarium. He said they did a lot of research on different salts in a lab setting and found Red Sea to have the better salt. They switched and are now using it primarily in the facility. I have always used instant ocean and have never had any issues in the 20 years I’ve used it. If I was going to try a new salt I would probably just try the Red Sea.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Cody]

red sea requires you to use it after 24 hours of mixing

I like to premix 30-40 gallons and have it on hand at all times. IO is more stable and cheaper to boot. IO and TMP were really the only ones that were safe to mix and store for long periods. If TMP is out, then its IO all the way now.

What’s your info source for IO being able to store long term?

 

[soymilk]

What’s your info source for IO being able to store long term?

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I can pull more sources. But mainly going off BRS tests.

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ninja edit: going over the data again I guess they said pretty much all of them are pretty stable enough for long term storage. I just remember when I used to use red sea, they recommending using the mixed saltwater within 24 hours of mixing.