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By the way since you have you home know I still have 9 panels of glass for your green house. I could have another 12 by the end of the month.

I have zero space in the backyard for a green house. It's all garden and gazebo! Thanks though.
 

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Yeah I could definitely improve in the future, but what's done is done.

Trim got laid down yesterday, silicone on the tops and bottoms of the baseboards today. Water proofing for days! Just got a little more paint to hit, then the stands start going up.

Hey bud I am not knocking you just trying to help... I hate sheetrock but if I do it a certain way it is tolerable!! Keep up the good work. I know you are not going to stop building after this project just helping out for the future!!

And for the glass the gazebo is perfect just strap the glass to the sides!!:cool:
 
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Wait, did I mention that I have a gazebo? I’m too lazy to go back and read haha

Anyway, hvac supplies purchased today. Gonna have AC and heat in the room and I’m pumped!
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Wait, did I mention that I have a gazebo? I’m too lazy to go back and read haha

Anyway, hvac supplies purchased today. Gonna have AC and heat in the room and I’m pumped!
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Make sure you tape the inner sleeve of the ducts to the collers or it will sweat. And then use the big zip ties to get everything nice and tight. Let me know if you have any trouble.
 
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Make sure you tape the inner sleeve of the ducts to the collers or it will sweat. And then use the big zip ties to get everything nice and tight. Let me know if you have any trouble.

Oh my buddy has an HVAC company and he's doing it for me. He gave me a shopping list and I got the stuff. That's my only involvement haha

Steve, yes I will have a dedicated return with a filter. Both the inlet and outlet will have dapers on them so that I can regulate the flow. The inlet is 6" and the outlet is 8". All supplies cost me $118 from Johnson supplies.
 

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Oh my buddy has an HVAC company and he's doing it for me. He gave me a shopping list and I got the stuff. That's my only involvement haha

Steve, yes I will have a dedicated return with a filter. Both the inlet and outlet will have dapers on them so that I can regulate the flow. The inlet is 6" and the outlet is 8". All supplies cost me $118 from Johnson supplies.

You might consider not doing the return air.

That humid air is highly corrosive and will likely cause premature failure of the coil. Better to tie the fish room to your living room to relieve the positive pressure from the air con supply or plumb in a vent to the outside.

Bill Wan confirmed this at RC.


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So last minute I decided to stick with the same inlet plan, but for outlet of the air, I am running a bathroom fan through the soffit on the side of the house. I will block the soffit on either side of the outlet to make sure the moisture doesn't make it's way into the attic. As far as the room is concerned now.......

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For the record, NEVER go to a big box store for these supplies. The one in question rhymes with Dome Hepot. Roughly 2-4 times the price as a Johnson supply would charge you. Digging my conditioned room big time.
 
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So I took Steve's advice last minute and decided against running my return back into the AC unit. For now, I'm using convection to push air out of the room and out of my soffit on the side of the garage. This is a temporary solution until my roof gets redone and I vent the moisture out of the roof.

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I love having an attic that I can stand up in. Ghetto rigged, but the air flow should be right to get the moisture out for now.
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So I took Steve's advice last minute and decided against running my return back into the AC unit. For now, I'm using convection to push air out of the room and out of my soffit on the side of the garage. This is a temporary solution until my roof gets redone and I vent the moisture out of the roof.

Inlet and outlet.
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I love having an attic that I can stand up in. Ghetto rigged, but the air flow should be right to get the moisture out for now.
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I'm doing the same, adding only a supply, no return, and venting the moist, warm air out of the fish room. I've seen what a 215 gallon can do to the drywall of a home over the years and so I'm doing all I can to vent the moisture out of the house.
 

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I'm doing the same, adding only a supply, no return, and venting the moist, warm air out of the fish room. I've seen what a 215 gallon can do to the drywall of a home over the years and so I'm doing all I can to vent the moisture out of the house.

I don't know-my previous tank was 200/g plus 70/g fuge and 50/g sump with 2-400/watt mh. Just normal home hvac didn't notice anything with walls/Sheetrock in 7 yrs.

yeah if you don't paint your house in decades then there could be some issues with Sheetrock.

The advancement in paint technology is amazing these days. Give the crib a good paint job every 7-10 years I don't think you need to worry about Sheetrock issue. Plus same paint on the walls get boring after 5 yrs. [emoji6]

I keep the house thermostat on 73-fish room has no smell or humidity feel but I'm sure there is humidity in the room. I know couple of other marshians with 400+ gallon tanks using nothing but main home hvac.
 

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I don't know-my previous tank was 200/g plus 70/g fuge and 50/g sump with 2-400/watt mh. Just normal home hvac didn't notice anything with walls/Sheetrock in 7 yrs.

yeah if you don't paint your house in decades then there could be some issues with Sheetrock.

The advancement in paint technology is amazing these days. Give the crib a good paint job every 7-10 years I don't think you need to worry about Sheetrock issue. Plus same paint on the walls get boring after 5 yrs. [emoji6]

I keep the house thermostat on 73-fish room has no smell or humidity feel but I'm sure there is humidity in the room. I know couple of other marshians with 400+ gallon tanks using nothing but main home hvac.
You're pretty lucky then.

My old house was built in 1976, and the AC unit was only replaced once since then so my AC unit was not one of those fancy new ones that could vent outside air or have humidity control options. The drywall tape probably let got easily too after 40+ years. Haha.

Either case, I saw rust on my most of my AC vents from the additional moisture, saw condensation on the glass on cold days, and on average, read a humidity of 65%+ on days that the AC was running at a normal pace, but not in the summer. The summers in Texas require almost constant running of the AC and the humidity stayed a more reasonable 40-50%.

At the new house, built 1998, when I hadn't closed off the fish room yet, I read average humidity of 60-70% and had to resort to using a 75-pint dehumidifier. I also had the house freshly painted before moving in but seeing the condensation on the windows this winter set off alarms to me that I needed to finish the fish room, seal it off, and vent the humid/hot air outside. I didn't want a repeat of my old house where the drywall tape was starting to let go in some areas and I had active rust on metal components.

Everyone's mileage may vary but at 3-4 gallons of top off water/day for my 300 gallon total water volume system, that 3-4 gallons is in the air at the house. I'll do everything I can to remove it despite seeing issues or not at my house. That's why I'll be venting it outside. Small effort on my part to avoid larger humidity related repairs down the road for me at least.
 
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Even with just my 60 and 20 gallon tanks, I saw a lot of moisture on the windows during the winter, and I don't want mold on the window frame. Also, I have a nice dehumidifier, but I don't want to rely exclusively on that. I think just pushing the air outside and being done with it is best.
 
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Stand for the main sump and two 40 breeders on top has a skeleton. Just gotta throw some plywood and paint. It's solid as can be.
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Has anyone ever used exterior 100% acrylic paint for a stand? I'm sure it will be fine considering that it's acrylic. I guess it's a little late now though haha

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Not finished yet. Got some touching up to do
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Has anyone ever used exterior 100% acrylic paint for a stand? I'm sure it will be fine considering that it's acrylic. I guess it's a little late now though haha

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Not finished yet. Got some touching up to do
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Looks nice. I always use rustoleum oil based paint.


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Well that didn't work...:twitch: anyway did you insulate the duct you ran outside? You will be surprised how much those things sweat.
 
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